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p3flteng 04-11-2012 10:46 AM

I have often thought they could just do the same with an hourly secure bus between jfk and lga. Why not, continental/united does it ewr to abe....heck they even give it a flight number, I have actually jumpseated on it in the past.

Elvis90 04-11-2012 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1167659)
I was gonna link the same story. This is one of the most interesting and exciting things to happen around here in a long time. What really makes it so much fun is the talking heads that are totally bewildered about it.

"Experts" said Tebow couldn't win in the NFL too.

This idea is pretty creative. I hope it works out for the largest commercial consumer of jet fuel on earth. I'd put it on par with SWA's early fuel hedging strategy.

tsquare 04-11-2012 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1167657)
No...not -Through- Queens, they'll go underground, so it won't disrupt the surface flow!

You know that will be 'cost effective'!

ROTFLMAO. You know one of the JFK terminal solutions proposed taking the old JBlue terminal and tunnelling under 31R to all of that area where there are the cargo terminals and building a DTW style gate building.. THAT would have been much more cost effective than a connector train btwn LGA and JFK, and it was scrapped for cost.

Nope.. just crazy talk, but I am sure it has been talked about.. doesn't men there has been any serious consideration... unless maybe if it is a MagLev train that needs no track.. Now THAT would be innovative.:cool:

johnso29 04-11-2012 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by groundstop (Post 1167624)
For real? If true, wow.


Originally Posted by rvr350 (Post 1167641)
Obviously the RJ are better fitted to fly between these two tiny east coast cities. Mgmt reserve the right to upgauge the RJ to the E175 if revenue improves;)


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1167648)
The LGA-ORD shuttle has always been on RJ's, right? (on E175's?)

I thought I saw a bunch of them over at the MAT, while I was doing LGA-BOS.

Yup, we are going to OWN NYC!

Oh wait, 'we' don't fly those jets...

Yeah there is a memo on Deltanet explaining it all.

sailingfun 04-11-2012 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1167665)
ROTFLMAO. You know one of the JFK terminal solutions proposed taking the old JBlue terminal and tunnelling under 31R to all of that area where there are the cargo terminals and building a DTW style gate building.. THAT would have been much more cost effective than a connector train btwn LGA and JFK, and it was scrapped for cost.

Nope.. just crazy talk, but I am sure it has been talked about.. doesn't men there has been any serious consideration... unless maybe if it is a MagLev train that needs no track.. Now THAT would be innovative.:cool:


Most of JFK is built on former swamp. No matter how they tried to engineer the tunnels it was a giant nightmare and as you mentioned way beyond anything they could consider cost effective. Terminal 8 in JFK is the new focus. It would work perfect for us.

tsquare 04-11-2012 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1167668)
Most of JFK is built on former swamp. No matter how they tried to engineer the tunnels it was a giant nightmare and as you mentioned way beyond anything they could consider cost effective. Terminal 8 in JFK is the new focus. It would work perfect for us.

As in an asset swap? That makes sense since AMR (apparently) isn't filling that terminal and are (obviously) cash strapped. We build T4 and do a swap deal.. interesting. Prolly about the same money spent by both players, and we would get maximum utilization for that expenditure.

I think that tunneling idea was pretty cool though, but as I understand it you are correct about the water problems..

Timbo 04-11-2012 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1167667)
Yeah there is a memo on Deltanet explaining it all.


Thanks, I just read it on the DALPA forum and I was going to post it here...then I remembered that little blurb on DL Net about not lifting stuff from there...

So, yeah, the Shuttle is going RJ. BUT, they said there will be enough A320 departures to make up the lost flying, with more of them out of JFK. They said since the High Speed Acella train came on like, shuttle pax boardings are off by more than 50%.

Here's their route map, look out, PHL and DCA will be next! http://www.amtrak.com/servlet/Conten...=1241245664867

forgot to bid 04-11-2012 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1167668)
Most of JFK is built on former swamp. No matter how they tried to engineer the tunnels it was a giant nightmare and as you mentioned way beyond anything they could consider cost effective. Terminal 8 in JFK is the new focus. It would work perfect for us.

I believe EWR is over a swamp too.

One day when I was at Coex I made the run from Terminal C to A to catch an ATL flight. I missed the first one but was waiting for the second when I noticed the 737 had stopped on the middle of the ramp after push back. Soon stairs were sent to the airplane and then people got off the airplane and began walking in. The right main had fallen into the pavement. For weeks there was a cone in the hole to let you know don't go there.

I can't remember if I got out of EWR that day or not. I probably did. It's all a blur.

Timbo 04-11-2012 11:26 AM

And you KNOW why they call Laguardia, "La Garbage", right?

That airport was built over a garbage dump/land fill.

tsquare 04-11-2012 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1167688)
And you KNOW why they call Laguardia, "La Garbage", right?

and why is it that "guard" is pronounced -gard- but Laguardia is pronounced -lagwadier-?


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