Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-16-2012, 04:23 PM
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: MSP7ERB
Posts: 1,886
I've never had a problem with the Captains I fly with, but I've been MSP based. Once I'm ATL based, I'll check back with you.
UCAL talks are not going well at all. Pilots are about to break off negotiations on April 30th, see the "April 30th release date" thread. There's a lot of rage over management slow-rolling negotiations.
UCAL talks are not going well at all. Pilots are about to break off negotiations on April 30th, see the "April 30th release date" thread. There's a lot of rage over management slow-rolling negotiations.
04-16-2012, 04:43 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2010
Position: Lil Bus A
Posts: 412
Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
Go here: PDF Download - Download.com
Download the add-on and install, .pdf files will once again work.
Download the add-on and install, .pdf files will once again work.
I can read pdf files if I use the Safari browser, but not with Firefox.
04-16-2012, 05:02 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2010
Position: B737NG-B
Posts: 203
Originally Posted by NERD
Hey, I did the postflight walk around the other night and I am MSP soon to be ATL. I must admit it was because the FO (fellow APCer, btw) was in the lav and cutting in to our beer time
04-16-2012, 05:26 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: window seat
Posts: 12,522
Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
I'd hate to be that passenger. They should be charged for violating a crew member's instructions and fined for the amount it cost Delta.
04-16-2012, 05:50 PM
Happy to be here
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A-320A
Posts: 18,563
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
As junior, nobody, FO, I expect to get garbage bags and walk arounds. In Atlanta on the Boeings, I'd guess CA's get 10% of the walk around inspections, unless it is a LCA. They usually do 50%.
But what is annoying is getting back in from the Post Flight, shutting down the APU and securing the jet, grabbing my crap and walking out of the jetway to find a huddle of flight attendants and a Captain all asking if I've called the hotel van. ... I turn on the phone, wait for it to load its version of linux, find a signal and start diffing out my rotation while trying to move fast enough that the rest of the crew doesn't stop and begin complaining (for FA's anything from 1/2 a degree temp change from the jet to jetway, to any percieved slight by a passenger or another FA is reason for a tirade ... I don't like being the recipient of their wrath).
Eventually I get the call in to Cheapocrewtransport, or the front desk of the Sherd-I-don'tgiveacrap'ton to tell them our flight number three times and wait to hear, "they'll be there in a minute" and clarify whether a "minute" is "now," "fifteen minutes" or, "I really have no clue."
It is annoying as hell. ... Am I just doing it wrong?
When I was a Captain I used to call the hotel so as to not cut into our beer break / rest. But here, no, huh, huh. First trip off of IOE, I thought the Captains were trying to hook up, but the target selection quickly disavowed the rational man of that notion. Then I thought it was perhaps the Boss was trying to be polite. I am now beginning to think after a day of hearing my genius level pontifications on scope that talking with a group of folks about feline menopause really is mesmerizing.
But what is annoying is getting back in from the Post Flight, shutting down the APU and securing the jet, grabbing my crap and walking out of the jetway to find a huddle of flight attendants and a Captain all asking if I've called the hotel van. ... I turn on the phone, wait for it to load its version of linux, find a signal and start diffing out my rotation while trying to move fast enough that the rest of the crew doesn't stop and begin complaining (for FA's anything from 1/2 a degree temp change from the jet to jetway, to any percieved slight by a passenger or another FA is reason for a tirade ... I don't like being the recipient of their wrath).
Eventually I get the call in to Cheapocrewtransport, or the front desk of the Sherd-I-don'tgiveacrap'ton to tell them our flight number three times and wait to hear, "they'll be there in a minute" and clarify whether a "minute" is "now," "fifteen minutes" or, "I really have no clue."
It is annoying as hell. ... Am I just doing it wrong?
When I was a Captain I used to call the hotel so as to not cut into our beer break / rest. But here, no, huh, huh. First trip off of IOE, I thought the Captains were trying to hook up, but the target selection quickly disavowed the rational man of that notion. Then I thought it was perhaps the Boss was trying to be polite. I am now beginning to think after a day of hearing my genius level pontifications on scope that talking with a group of folks about feline menopause really is mesmerizing.
See Bar, I call the van first, tell the Capt and Purser I have done that, and then do my post flight. If they leave the jet without me that is fine, but generally I am still waiting on the last few passengers. Why sweat the small stuff. I do not expect my Capt's to do my job and then I am never disappointed.
FWIW, only had three capt's in the last five years buy dinner. I was taken by surprise every time it happened, and was honestly thankful for the gesture.
04-16-2012, 05:52 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: ATL717A
Posts: 890
Originally Posted by buzzpat
There's only one guy on the 73 in LA that won't do the walk arounds. He doesn't buy drinks or dinner either. Since we have 60 CAs I guess that means he's our .0167%. You'll see his name most often in open time.
Maybe times have changed, but when I was an F/O, the number of Captains that shared the walk-around could be counted on one hand. Dinner? Uh, no. Not sure I remember that at all. The occasional beer was most appreciated.
04-16-2012, 06:01 PM
Banned
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Posts: 793
Call the van? I'm probably in the 5%, but I rarely call except for the layovers I know don't start rolling until you ring them. As for the ATL MD captains, my experience is about 50% share in the walk arounds, but that's 50% more than I expect. I look at it as my responsibility and am not miffed in the least if the captain doesn't do them. The 50% also applies to beer purchases (that could be due to being a reserve guy, if you know what I mean), but when I get sent to cover CVG trips that number jumps to 100%.
04-16-2012, 06:03 PM
Back on TDY
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: 747-400 Captain
Posts: 12,487
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I should ask. I have no problem asking. No fear.
FTB: "Hi, my name is Carl Spackler and I have a question for anyone who would like to answer it..."
FTB: "Hi, my name is Carl Spackler and I have a question for anyone who would like to answer it..."
Carl
04-16-2012, 06:06 PM
veut gagner à la loterie
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
See Bar, I call the van first, tell the Capt and Purser I have done that, and then do my post flight. If they leave the jet without me that is fine, but generally I am still waiting on the last few passengers. Why sweat the small stuff. I do not expect my Capt's to do my job and then I am never disappointed.
FWIW, only had three capt's in the last five years buy dinner. I was taken by surprise every time it happened, and was honestly thankful for the gesture.
FWIW, only had three capt's in the last five years buy dinner. I was taken by surprise every time it happened, and was honestly thankful for the gesture.
Most FAs call for themselves just assuming they're off to a different hotel.
As to Bar's comments......do... cats.... do cats really have menopause? How can you tell the difference from their normal eratic behavior?
Originally Posted by Jughead
Maybe times have changed, but when I was an F/O, the number of Captains that shared the walk-around could be counted on one hand. Dinner? Uh, no. Not sure I remember that at all. The occasional beer was most appreciated.
Honestly, 8 or so out of 10 times I just want to be left alone on an overnight. Slam clicker? Yep. It's only taken 12 years to make me that way. It's cheaper and easier that way.
Well except for 2 years as a corporate pilot. We had the boss' credit card, we had a blast with that thing.
04-16-2012, 06:09 PM
veut gagner à la loterie
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
I take that back, when you get your you know what chewed out for paying $25 a day for a rental car in SNA, you learn to use your own card for baseball games and the casinos or what have you.
But if the charter company reimburses your boss... dinner is going to be really goooood.
But if the charter company reimburses your boss... dinner is going to be really goooood.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
