OK, so we're just working on a slightly different version of the same rumor (20% + COLA + 76-seaters and production balances, instead of 11%/11% + 76-seaters and production balnaces )? Is that what we're doing?

You know what these threads demonstrate? That we're [deleted] impatient. That's what they show. If you want to show resolve, don't scream like a girl that you'll vote every rumor down. Save it for the T/A.

Wake me up when there is one.

It also shows something else that should not go unnoticed: Pilots are sick and tired of being under the contractual duress that they have seen for the last seven years. They (we) are ready to get an agreement that restores much of what we lost. We see that our company is rising to greatness and because of that, we want to reap the rewards. Nothing crazy there.

I bet the company knows that dragging this out in a traditional section 6 manner would no be advantageous for them. They know the pot is simmering within our ranks and we want to see a better deal and growth. It ain't brain surgery.

Neither is waiting for the pitcher to actually throw before you swing.

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I'm with ya. Don't think this is the management to buy things at their high. They are looking at angles all over. Depressed assets like refineries and used airplanes...I think these guys definitely understand buy low philosophy...then get the value high by creating some unique circumstances. So anything not in favor could be a potential target. I've definitely made some money not following the herd with investing. Im glad they are this way but we would be foolish to think we weren't being herded...at least a little:) I think they deserve a little credit there. I expect nothing less from good management.

Delta Airlines announced plans Monday to purchase an oil refinery outside of Philadelphia, a novel approach to reducing its fuel costs.
Delta to buy oil refinery - Apr. 30, 2012

I meant to say also that if you look at angles the company uses...don't think we aren't a business model input as well...whenever something does come out we will have to find the angles as they will be exploited later. Until then I think I'll just chill and see what materializes. United's trajectory is about to bring a little more attention to the section 6 process I think.

LOL.. now it's novel.. a month ago it was idiotic...:rolleyes:

One BIG ? ref Virgin, do we also get their flight attendants in this deal?:)

All I know is &$@! is for sale in Europe...would be nice if that was included.