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Originally Posted by Jesse
(Post 1127839)
My understanding is that a SC only adds 5 pts to your RAW score, it doesn't affect whether a junior or senior pilot will be assigned a trip other than it may be enough to push a pilot into the next higher bucket.
As for SCs themselves, as of right now I think we're still under the previous system which means scheduling will lean towards distributing them evenly among the reserves, but it really comes down to who's available. That changes in May with the new SC rules. Others can step in here for those details. If I'm understanding this correctly, if you sit a short call, don't get used, your raw goes to 5, you still remain in the same position on the list as before doing your SC?? all other things being equal of course. I guess where my confusion stems from is that in the "previous system" if you did a one day trip, your raw would jump to 10 or so. That would then move you to the bottom of the line for being called for a trip, and people with a raw of 0..for example...would move ahead in line of you to be used. |
Originally Posted by TheTriColor
(Post 1127917)
Just thought of another question (or another way of asking my previous question) after reading the latest responses. So if SC now adds 5 points to your raw score, and you are in the .....say 3 day bucket....since you have 5 points of raw, and everyone else has 0 in that same bucket (for arguments sake) shouldn't you go to the bottom of said bucket?
If I'm understanding this correctly, if you sit a short call, don't get used, your raw goes to 5, you still remain in the same position on the list as before doing your SC?? all other things being equal of course. I guess where my confusion stems from is that in the "previous system" if you did a one day trip, your raw would jump to 10 or so. That would then move you to the bottom of the line for being called for a trip, and people with a raw of 0..for example...would move ahead in line of you to be used. |
Originally Posted by TheTriColor
(Post 1127917)
Just thought of another question (or another way of asking my previous question) after reading the latest responses. So if SC now adds 5 points to your raw score, and you are in the .....say 3 day bucket....since you have 5 points of raw, and everyone else has 0 in that same bucket (for arguments sake) shouldn't you go to the bottom of said bucket?
If I'm understanding this correctly, if you sit a short call, don't get used, your raw goes to 5, you still remain in the same position on the list as before doing your SC?? all other things being equal of course. I guess where my confusion stems from is that in the "previous system" if you did a one day trip, your raw would jump to 10 or so. That would then move you to the bottom of the line for being called for a trip, and people with a raw of 0..for example...would move ahead in line of you to be used. |
Originally Posted by Columbia
(Post 1127918)
From my understanding, your RAW doesn't affect your seniority within the bucket until you move into the next bucket. It's only a number to show you what you need to get there. Once in the next bucket, you then are "senior" to everyone in the previous bucket (that is until they start joining you in your new bucket).
I'm not sure why this whole thing started confusing me so much. The more I looked at it, the more it confused me. Thanks for the info! |
Just thought of another question (or another way of asking my previous question) after reading the latest responses. So if SC now adds 5 points to your raw score, and you are in the .....say 3 day bucket....since you have 5 points of raw, and everyone else has 0 in that same bucket (for arguments sake) shouldn't you go to the bottom of said bucket? If I'm understanding this correctly, if you sit a short call, don't get used, your raw goes to 5, you still remain in the same position on the list as before doing your SC?? all other things being equal of course. I guess where my confusion stems from is that in the "previous system" if you did a one day trip, your raw would jump to 10 or so. That would then move you to the bottom of the line for being called for a trip, and people with a raw of 0..for example...would move ahead in line of you to be used. |
Originally Posted by The Cavalier
(Post 1127919)
Raw means nothing within the same bucket. Only seniority. So if you are the junior guy within a bucket, you will be first in line until hitting 81 raw. If you are said pilot, congratulations, you work so others don't have to for 2-3 weeks. Precisely why myself and others have been saying 80 raw is way too high.
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I think you get a few points added to your RAW by posting on here too which may expedite your transition to the next bucket ;)
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Originally Posted by Cubdrick
(Post 1127928)
I think you get a few points added to your RAW by posting on here too which may expedite your transition to the next bucket ;)
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Originally Posted by TheTriColor
(Post 1127917)
Just thought of another question (or another way of asking my previous question) after reading the latest responses. So if SC now adds 5 points to your raw score, and you are in the .....say 3 day bucket....since you have 5 points of raw, and everyone else has 0 in that same bucket (for arguments sake) shouldn't you go to the bottom of said bucket?
If I'm understanding this correctly, if you sit a short call, don't get used, your raw goes to 5, you still remain in the same position on the list as before doing your SC?? all other things being equal of course. I guess where my confusion stems from is that in the "previous system" if you did a one day trip, your raw would jump to 10 or so. That would then move you to the bottom of the line for being called for a trip, and people with a raw of 0..for example...would move ahead in line of you to be used. |
Seems like many on here think that all of the reserve flying should be distributed equally. If that's the case, should we try and get the company to make all of the trips equal as well? All 4 day trips should have 2 days of garbage, (2 short overnights 5 legs per day) and 1 good overnight 2 days of easy flying. This way, seniority would only ensure days off and everyone would enjoy the same trip quality. That's the message I'm hearing from most of the new reserve system.................
Kudos to ALPA for making an improvement in the reserve system! Anyone else think the buckets should move to 85? :D |
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