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Originally Posted by dalad
(Post 1179000)
So much for needing a contract settled to get the financing for a refinery.
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Originally Posted by Philly
(Post 1178952)
Long time lurker/occasional poster, but I can't not share this one. Let me say right up front that this is 3rd hand so please don't shoot the messenger!
OK, here goes: Jumpseater with us today claims to have ties to a CPO and was told by his buddy in the CPO that we should see a TA on 18 May. Supposedly the MEC will see it on the 15th, and to us on the 18th. Details include 20% increase to the rates with "COLA" type increases per year later. 717s are in the deal and supposedly via a lease from Boeing after turn in from SWA. SWA pays some penalties etc but we get "new" leases from Boeing. Company will offer 500 early outs, and hiring will begin quickly. 50 seaters reduced to around 125 total. Now for the bad news: Supposedly company wants 90 seaters with some type of production balance. Also they want increased Code share with Alaska. The reason he claims the company wants a deal done quickly has to do with the loan for the refinery. Again, please don't shoot the messenger. There is no way I can confirm any of this...it is just the rumor I heard today with a lot of details and a firm date (supposedly). I guess we will know soon. Ready for incoming...Philly |
Originally Posted by Philly
(Post 1178952)
Long time lurker/occasional poster, but I can't not share this one. Let me say right up front that this is 3rd hand so please don't shoot the messenger!
OK, here goes: Jumpseater with us today claims to have ties to a CPO and was told by his buddy in the CPO that we should see a TA on 18 May. Supposedly the MEC will see it on the 15th, and to us on the 18th. Details include 20% increase to the rates with "COLA" type increases per year later. 717s are in the deal and supposedly via a lease from Boeing after turn in from SWA. SWA pays some penalties etc but we get "new" leases from Boeing. Company will offer 500 early outs, and hiring will begin quickly. 50 seaters reduced to around 125 total. Now for the bad news: Supposedly company wants 90 seaters with some type of production balance. Also they want increased Code share with Alaska. The reason he claims the company wants a deal done quickly has to do with the loan for the refinery. Again, please don't shoot the messenger. There is no way I can confirm any of this...it is just the rumor I heard today with a lot of details and a firm date (supposedly). I guess we will know soon. Ready for incoming...Philly |
Originally Posted by 1234
(Post 1179004)
I have a hard time believing that our deal has anything to do with the refinery. Reports say that Delta would buy for $150 million and JP Morgan would finance the refining. Hard to believe those small terms would justify a quick settlement for management. But what do I know.
I'd say that whole thing is shot down. It's a stupid rumor anyways- the company knows better that we won't accept 90 seaters being outsourced. |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1179007)
They just finalized the deal on the refinery a few minutes ago.
I'd say that whole thing is shot down. It's a stupid rumor anyways- the company knows better that we won't accept 90 seaters being outsourced. |
90 Seaters - thats a joke right? Hopefully most DAL Pilots will not fall for this. Time to start writing your Reps boys. If you have already written them - write again.
No 90 seaters unless they are flown by Delta Pilots. Oh yeah, I almost forgot - Expand the Alaska code share - great! How about we ask the NY based guys if they would like a domestic code share with JBLU. Sure it will screw that base but be good for DAL Pilots as group. Or better yet lets codeshare with SWA/Airtran in ATL - yeah it will screw the ATL based guys but be good for the west coast guys and the MSP/SLC/DTW guys. I hope this is indeed a bad rumor because it sucks! Scoop |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1179008)
I haven't seen news on a finalized deal, only stories that say it's expected to be announced tomorrow. Do you have a link?
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1179012)
It was just on CNBC. I assume news stories will start flowing shortly.
Delta refinery deal seen as Penn. governor sets conference |
Originally Posted by Philly
(Post 1178952)
Long time lurker/occasional poster, but I can't not share this one. Let me say right up front that this is 3rd hand so please don't shoot the messenger!
OK, here goes: Jumpseater with us today claims to have ties to a CPO and was told by his buddy in the CPO that we should see a TA on 18 May. Supposedly the MEC will see it on the 15th, and to us on the 18th. Details include 20% increase to the rates with "COLA" type increases per year later. 717s are in the deal and supposedly via a lease from Boeing after turn in from SWA. SWA pays some penalties etc but we get "new" leases from Boeing. Company will offer 500 early outs, and hiring will begin quickly. 50 seaters reduced to around 125 total. Now for the bad news: Supposedly company wants 90 seaters with some type of production balance. Also they want increased Code share with Alaska. The reason he claims the company wants a deal done quickly has to do with the loan for the refinery. Again, please don't shoot the messenger. There is no way I can confirm any of this...it is just the rumor I heard today with a lot of details and a firm date (supposedly). I guess we will know soon. Ready for incoming...Philly We shall see. Some of this sounds like a trial balloon. They know that we will not give up 90 seat jets. If we are that dumb, we get what we deserve. Period. Also the timeline jives with the Regular MEC Meeting that is scheduled for around that time frame. Many suspect that we will see a TA just before or just after the MEC meeting(after if more direction is needed) They ask for 90 seaters, it makes many grateful that we are only allowing the 70 seaters to stay(102 jets) and cutting totally allowable 76 seaters though the total number on property will increase. (based on my hypothesis a few days ago that I posted here) |
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