Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-07-2012 | 12:31 PM
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05-07-2012 | 12:32 PM
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05-07-2012 | 12:35 PM
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I'll give up transforming 1 70 seat jet for 1 76 seat jet if:
a) All 50 seaters are parked and their number capped at 1. Just to remind us what happens when we give up scope.
b) Alaska codeshare gone. If we merge in next 5 years all of DCI parked.
c) Whatever George says to do about the JVs.
d) All of DCI pilot positions must be transferred from non Delta pilots to seniority list Delta pilots, with seats open for bidding and training in house, by 2015.
a) All 50 seaters are parked and their number capped at 1. Just to remind us what happens when we give up scope.
b) Alaska codeshare gone. If we merge in next 5 years all of DCI parked.
c) Whatever George says to do about the JVs.
d) All of DCI pilot positions must be transferred from non Delta pilots to seniority list Delta pilots, with seats open for bidding and training in house, by 2015.
Hey DALPA, see how easy that was?
Carl
05-07-2012 | 12:35 PM
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This might be true, but it is in our favor. I would rather have a min reserve requirement that is too low than too high. It lets lineholders use PCS and lets greenslips go out. I also would rather fly than sit short call, but I prefer long call. The only time the reserves run out is on weekends. This is because lineholders whiteslip less on weekends and sick calls increase.
The reserves required is a different story altogether. Lower is better and the current formula is about right, especially with recent changes.
PBS and better trip/duty rigs are the real solution to better QOL, PCS is a bandaid to fix things when circumstances change
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George
05-07-2012 | 12:38 PM
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The reserve staffing formula is what I was talking about. The effect of that is bodies in base... higher is better and the current formula is crazy low.
The reserves required is a different story altogether. Lower is better and the current formula is about right, especially with recent changes.
PBS and better trip/duty rigs are the real solution to better QOL, PCS is a bandaid to fix things when circumstances change
Cheers
George
The reserves required is a different story altogether. Lower is better and the current formula is about right, especially with recent changes.
PBS and better trip/duty rigs are the real solution to better QOL, PCS is a bandaid to fix things when circumstances change
Cheers
George
05-07-2012 | 12:38 PM
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I took it the opposite. The company an ALPA are going to push this contract on us hard core. The sales pitch will include a massive increase in mainline block hours so that we will sign off on more RJ's. There will definitely be a massive increase in mainline blk hrs but not b/c we are actually taking the flying back but b/c we are so much more efficient and flying more anyway.
The more days that go by the more ****ty the rumors I am hearing get. Funny how not a single rumor even hints at massive take backs or pay raises. Only give give give....
The more days that go by the more ****ty the rumors I am hearing get. Funny how not a single rumor even hints at massive take backs or pay raises. Only give give give....
05-07-2012 | 12:40 PM
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But they won't.
Its contract time and so to them, in good times and in bad, that automatically means more large RJ's. Permanently. Moustaches and donuts aside, DALPA has been habitually predisposed to partner with them to make their massive DC-9-10 replacement fleet a reality.
If this is really about some time sensitive opportunity, the company should have no problem agreeing to a drawdawn far beleath 255 70+ seaters in a few years, even if they claim to "need" them today. If none of the ACMI low bidders will agree to it, start a cleen sheet one with the bonus of zero longevity. But either way those are 100% our jobs and they should go to our pilots, especially if it helps the company out of a jam. Then again we could just operate them at mainline with a B scale if necessary. B scales suck, but they are infinitely better than outsourcing.
Yet neither will be part of the upcoming POS TA. Permamant additional 76 seaters to the underbidders with BS protections" like no furlough laguage and stupid mainline ratios and promised growth is all they will offer. And we will at the bery least come very close to falling for that yet again it seems.
05-07-2012 | 12:41 PM
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The SWAPA contract in its entirety would be an INCREDIBLE coup for this pilot group. Top of the industry pay, great pay per day minimums, and only Delta pilots flying the Delta brand. How anyone doesn't get that is beyond me.
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05-07-2012 | 12:46 PM
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Hockey, when I was hired, they were also negotiating a contract. When you got into the 727 and looked up, there was a slogan scratched into the dome light covers. It said, "More Money, More Time Off".
It took me a while to figure out what they were talking about, but you've broken the code. The "more time off" we get, the more pilots they need in each (higher paying) category, which leads to upgrades, which leads to the "More Money" part.
Some pilots think that flying more per month will bring them a fatter paycheck. But flying -more- per month will have the exact opposite effect. Delta will need LESS pilots, starting at the top, and displacing all the way down. We will then be getting "Less Money (being displaced) and Less Time Off (by having to fly more to make up for the pay cut)
Too bad we don't have dome lights to scratch the slogan into! I'd go back to a fixed 75 hour cap tomorrow, with bow wave and spill back, but I doubt the ALPA guys, who are getting what, 87 hours(?) per month now, would go for it.
It took me a while to figure out what they were talking about, but you've broken the code. The "more time off" we get, the more pilots they need in each (higher paying) category, which leads to upgrades, which leads to the "More Money" part.
Some pilots think that flying more per month will bring them a fatter paycheck. But flying -more- per month will have the exact opposite effect. Delta will need LESS pilots, starting at the top, and displacing all the way down. We will then be getting "Less Money (being displaced) and Less Time Off (by having to fly more to make up for the pay cut)
Too bad we don't have dome lights to scratch the slogan into! I'd go back to a fixed 75 hour cap tomorrow, with bow wave and spill back, but I doubt the ALPA guys, who are getting what, 87 hours(?) per month now, would go for it.
Carl
05-07-2012 | 12:49 PM
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