Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-09-2012 | 07:50 PM
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From: Chief Monkeyboy at Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems
Hey 80 and ACL, I finally did it, no longer lurking
ACL, how was turnout today? Standing room only?
ACL, how was turnout today? Standing room only?
05-09-2012 | 08:06 PM
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From: Kickin’ Back
I've been thinking about the NNP and, after reading everything, can only come to one conclusion. Yes, it seems like the manning issues are well in favor of the company BUT I forsee the company needing to hire significantly if a TA is reached and ratified. If there is any increase in things like vacation (either hours/day or more weeks) it will cause the need for significant hiring. Maybe my glass is half full but I'll wait and see what the entire package entails.
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05-09-2012 | 08:35 PM
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I nominate all the toolbags over on the webboard who are tripping over themselves to sell scope for pay: TOOLS OF THE DAY (ok, maybe the decade).
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05-09-2012 | 08:59 PM
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05-09-2012 | 09:19 PM
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05-09-2012 | 09:48 PM
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One thing to look at though, is Delta directly and indirectly employs a lot of people. It's probably at least somewhere between 250-500K, maybe more. In this economy Delta is "Too Big To Fail", they don't have to put a lot of money on the table to get the NMB to side with them. I think if Delta puts up a lot of cash for scope relief, strictly from a business decision standpoint, DALPA would be inclined to take the deal.
In other words, you may not have the opportunity to vote for a contract that doesn't have scope relief. Which, faced with perpetual negotiations vs significant pay increases for a lot of pilots nearing the end of their career, makes a recipe for disaster. Also Delta has 400+ management pilots, these people have a lot of influence, even if you think they don't.
In other words, you may not have the opportunity to vote for a contract that doesn't have scope relief. Which, faced with perpetual negotiations vs significant pay increases for a lot of pilots nearing the end of their career, makes a recipe for disaster. Also Delta has 400+ management pilots, these people have a lot of influence, even if you think they don't.
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05-09-2012 | 09:55 PM
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No you don't get it, Scope is not a contract item; You can't strike over it. I doubt you would show up to work tomorrow if DCI started receiving 777s/747s/767s, etc. Why do you show up if there are CRJs being flown by DCI? I admit I'm guilty of contributing to the slide by working at Pinnacle, but I never took any of your flying that wasn't given. If mainline pilots truly wanted CRJs back on the mainline, management would put them back there, no contract negotiations necessary. However, I've got bad news for you, they don't.
05-09-2012 | 10:19 PM
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Because our scope allows it. Just like big airplanes in holding companies.
Wrong again. That may have been the case a decade ago, but it's not the case now.
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05-10-2012 | 02:25 AM
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05-10-2012 | 02:51 AM
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Any highlights on the meeting? Inquiring minds want to know.
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