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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 2873378)
850 needed, probably 1200 to be hired, 100 a month maybe by October is what some of the instructors were told. Although last year it was supposed to be much stronger than it was this year.
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Originally Posted by ChecklistMonkey
(Post 2873368)
Who does one talk to at the schoolhouse to get this scandalous info? If it's an instructor, I find their info to be right 50% of the time.
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Honestly the first indication of ramped up hiring will be when they start running larger interview classes. Even when hiring was going full bore there was normally a 6-8 week wait between interview and indoc. To my knowledge interview groups have still been in the 5-7 people range or less for quite some time. Once that jumps up to 10+ that'll be your indicator that classes are about to get yuuuuuge....
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Originally Posted by gopher3
(Post 2873249)
Well I guess trip construction is going to continue to deteriorate on the NBs. Not sure how they can say this with all the upcoming retirements. After this summer if they dont realize there is more than a financial cost to doing business with this strategy then i think all of their yippee kayee talk is complete BS. Of course it could all be a negotiation ploy on mgmts part too. I was never a big fan of Dickson but things sure have gone downhill since his departure. With JG and Capt, I mean Co-pilot, I mean Capt with LCA supervision RG in charge Im losing confidence rapidly.
I can’t believe this is some management ploy during negotiations. Risking our customer goodwill and brand name just to stick it to the pilots would be pure folly. I honestly think upper management has no clue how badly things have been run this summer compared to recent years. The metrics look great, but the product is in decline. |
Originally Posted by Bergman
(Post 2873460)
Agree completely.
I can’t believe this is some management ploy during negotiations. Risking our customer goodwill and brand name just to stick it to the pilots would be pure folly. I honestly think upper management has no clue how badly things have been run this summer compared to recent years. The metrics look great, but the product is in decline. That would be such an obviously dumb stratedgy even the B-School morons of the 90s wouldn't be doing it. Zero chance of success. Oh look, we're trashing your QOL to make you sign a POS TA leaving in place the same gaps and loopholes that enable it in the first place, so sign that POS TA and we will hire to the point of being so fat no one will have to ever work on reserve etc. Literally no one would fall for it and they would look obviously bad for trying. |
Originally Posted by TED74
(Post 2873393)
I wonder if this forecast is pricing in a global and domestic recession..
domestic no |
How long of a wait is it right now from CJO to class date?
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 2873378)
850 needed, probably 1200 to be hired, 100 a month maybe by October is what some of the instructors were told. Although last year it was supposed to be much stronger than it was this year.
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Originally Posted by TurbineDriver
(Post 2873713)
So wait...we need 850, but are hiring 1200? That makes a lot of sense.
Allegedly we overhired 2014-2017 so it’s nothing new. GP |
Originally Posted by tennisguru
(Post 2873449)
Honestly the first indication of ramped up hiring will be when they start running larger interview classes. Even when hiring was going full bore there was normally a 6-8 week wait between interview and indoc. To my knowledge interview groups have still been in the 5-7 people range or less for quite some time. Once that jumps up to 10+ that'll be your indicator that classes are about to get yuuuuuge....
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