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05-17-2014 | 06:23 AM
#2041
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2005
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From: M88B
This is why people are saying to start as soon as possible on the LOD and systems. They don't have to give you a week off. Some are getting over 2 weeks off, but are you the gambling type...
05-17-2014 | 08:38 AM
#2043
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2007
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From: Permanently scarred
Your experience must have been different from mine, and I'll grant you my experience is somewhat limited based on the time I've been with the company. But I felt my training has been of a high quality to this point. Would I have liked more of it? Yes, but I think all airlines have cut back in this area over the years. A friend of mine with United just went through his initial training and was on OE just over 4 weeks after starting. I do agree, going to formal training without adequate time to prepare is not the best way to start with a new hire. Most get about two to three weeks to prepare, and I've read here that the contract mandates at least a week.
05-17-2014 | 09:03 AM
#2044
La Familia Delta
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,467
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From: B-717 FO / C-17 AC
It is truly ridiculous that Delta no longer teaches aircraft systems to its pilots via any sort of ground school. They give you a disk (memory stick) that they pay you to go through once, and then expect you to teach yourself everything else in all the manuals on your own time and dime.
They don't actually test you on anything other than what's on the stick, but the sim instructors sure do whine when you don't know much else.
They don't actually test you on anything other than what's on the stick, but the sim instructors sure do whine when you don't know much else.
05-17-2014 | 09:53 AM
#2045
Line Holder
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 972
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From: 7ERA
There is nothing in the PWA for newhire schedules, prior to finishing IOE. You really are at the mercy of whoever builds your schedule.
As far as min days off between Indoc and training, there is none. Average is 10 days off, but I personally know someone who recently had only 1 day off. He couldn't even leave ATL after Indoc was finished.
As far as min days off between Indoc and training, there is none. Average is 10 days off, but I personally know someone who recently had only 1 day off. He couldn't even leave ATL after Indoc was finished.
05-17-2014 | 09:56 AM
#2046
Line Holder
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 972
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From: 7ERA
It is truly ridiculous that Delta no longer teaches aircraft systems to its pilots via any sort of ground school. They give you a disk (memory stick) that they pay you to go through once, and then expect you to teach yourself everything else in all the manuals on your own time and dime.
They don't actually test you on anything other than what's on the stick, but the sim instructors sure do whine when you don't know much else.
They don't actually test you on anything other than what's on the stick, but the sim instructors sure do whine when you don't know much else.
05-17-2014 | 10:47 AM
#2047
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 6,201
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It is truly ridiculous that Delta no longer teaches aircraft systems to its pilots via any sort of ground school. They give you a disk (memory stick) that they pay you to go through once, and then expect you to teach yourself everything else in all the manuals on your own time and dime.
They don't actually test you on anything other than what's on the stick, but the sim instructors sure do whine when you don't know much else.
They don't actually test you on anything other than what's on the stick, but the sim instructors sure do whine when you don't know much else.
05-17-2014 | 12:22 PM
#2048
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2005
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From: M88B
The intention is to shorten the training program as much as possible. They said as long as people are still passing Checkrides and OE then the numbers guys say where is the problem? I just hope I am not one of the ones that starts to show the cracks in the system. Not good for the record ya know 
05-17-2014 | 01:25 PM
#2049
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 5,816
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From: retired 767(dl)
Your experience must have been different from mine, and I'll grant you my experience is somewhat limited based on the time I've been with the company. But I felt my training has been of a high quality to this point. Would I have liked more of it? Yes, but I think all airlines have cut back in this area over the years. A friend of mine with United just went through his initial training and was on OE just over 4 weeks after starting. I do agree, going to formal training without adequate time to prepare is not the best way to start with a new hire. Most get about two to three weeks to prepare, and I've read here that the contract mandates at least a week.
05-19-2014 | 09:24 AM
#2050
New Hire
Joined: Apr 2013
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I know this was asked previously but I could not find an answer. Heading to the 2 June class and looking for some information on a rough timeline to hold a line in the various aircraft. I understand that the 717 or 88 will be the fastest, but I'm trying to get an idea of how much longer for the 737 or 320. Any info is greatly appreciated.
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