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Old 02-06-2014, 08:47 AM
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Anyone know what the average ages are of the two(?) new hire classes so far?

Not the furlough bypass guys, but the true 'new hires' ie. off the street and/or flows? And what's the percentage of Civ. only vs. Mil?

I'm sure it's going to change over time as they get the training dept. spooled up, both the age and the C/M%, I'm just trying to compare today's hiring with that of years gone by.
I got a hold of a seniority list with the first 2 classes, and my rough guesstimate based off their mandatory retirement looked like early to mid 30s were the average.
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Old 02-06-2014, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo View Post
Anyone know what the average ages are of the two(?) new hire classes so far?

Not the furlough bypass guys, but the true 'new hires' ie. off the street and/or flows? And what's the percentage of Civ. only vs. Mil?

I'm sure it's going to change over time as they get the training dept. spooled up, both the age and the C/M%, I'm just trying to compare today's hiring with that of years gone by.
Looking at the two classes in Jan approx. 43 total, 22 of them have a retirement date of 2035 or sooner. No one under 30 in January and 9 of them 50 ish (2029 or sooner) and over. With out a calculator it looks like the January average age would fall in the 42-44 range.
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Old 02-06-2014, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonny Drama View Post
Looking at the two classes in Jan approx. 43 total, 22 of them have a retirement date of 2035 or sooner. No one under 30 in January and 9 of them 50 ish (2029 or sooner) and over. With out a calculator it looks like the January average age would fall in the 42-44 range.
This is exactly what the average was told to us. Mid to early 40's average age of new hires.
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Old 02-06-2014, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp View Post
Unfilled positions on the last bid to be filled by noobs.. enjoy!

ATL7ERB (6)
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NYC73NB (31)
DTW320B (5)
NYC320B (13)
ATLM88B (22)
NYCM88B (19)
ATL717B (8)
Apparently those ER slots are being "pondered" to possibly be held from the new hires. They don't really want them training for Indoc , 4 different a/c , TOE, and IOE to worry about so quickly.
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Old 02-06-2014, 11:43 AM
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4 different aircraft! I've had enough with just the 88 and the 90. I won't have to worry about it for awhile but what does the 7E stand for?
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Old 02-06-2014, 11:47 AM
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4 different aircraft! I've had enough with just the 88 and the 90. I won't have to worry about it for awhile but what does the 7E stand for?
7ER= 767-300ER/767-300/757-200/757-200ETOPS/757-300 worldwide ops

There used to be a "767" category which was those planes but not ocean crossing. The 7ER used to be exclusively international, but they were eventually blended into a combined category.

B= First officer

I'm not sure what the pushback is on allowing newhires to have it.. there were a lot that got it in the 07-08 cycle.
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4 different aircraft! I've had enough with just the 88 and the 90. I won't have to worry about it for awhile but what does the 7E stand for?
7ER.

As in 767-300ER.

The ER means Extended Range.

Every category calls their plane by the largest version (73-800, A320, ER, etc) except the MD88/90 which goes respectfully by the smaller plane out of pride, humility and maybe a little fear.
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Old 02-06-2014, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by XtremeF150 View Post
Apparently those ER slots are being "pondered" to possibly be held from the new hires. They don't really want them training for Indoc , 4 different a/c , TOE, and IOE to worry about so quickly.
That didn't stop them in 07/08 when new hires went straight to the ER in NYC.
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Old 02-06-2014, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by XtremeF150 View Post
This is exactly what the average was told to us. Mid to early 40's average age of new hires.
Is that because most of the classes are Flows, that have been flying RJ's for 20 years?

Or are they retired Mil, or both?
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Originally Posted by XtremeF150 View Post
Apparently those ER slots are being "pondered" to possibly be held from the new hires. They don't really want them training for Indoc , 4 different a/c , TOE, and IOE to worry about so quickly.
I know that when I was a new hire I had the choice of the -88 or the 7ER. I took the -88 for the base available. When they brought in the manuals, I knew I had made the right choice. My box had about a 12 pack of beer sized manual stack, but the 7ER guys had a box the size of a keg full of manuals.

And that is why the -88 is better than the 7ER.....
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