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02-06-2014 | 12:00 PM
#681
Runs with scissors
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From: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
I know that when I was a new hire I had the choice of the -88 or the 7ER. I took the -88 for the base available. When they brought in the manuals, I knew I had made the right choice. My box had about a 12 pack of beer sized manual stack, but the 7ER guys had a box the size of a keg full of manuals.
And that is why the -88 is better than the 7ER.....
And that is why the -88 is better than the 7ER.....
And when I went from the right seat of the 767/757, to the left seat of the MD88 (no 90's then), the Limitations Chapter for all 4 models (757-200, 767-200, -300, ER) was only 5 pages.
The Limitations for just the MD88 was 11 pages!! Back then you had to have -all of it- committed to memory too!
I remember telling my IP that I wasn't sure I wanted to fly any airplane with 11 pages of Limitations!
02-06-2014 | 12:05 PM
#682
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And when I went from the right seat of the 767/757, to the left seat of the MD88 (no 90's then), the Limitations Chapter for all 4 models (757-200, 767-200, -300, ER) was only 5 pages.
The Limitations for just the MD88 was 11 pages!! Back then you had to have -all of it- committed to memory too!
I remember telling my IP that I wasn't sure I wanted to fly any airplane with 11 pages of Limitations!
The Limitations for just the MD88 was 11 pages!! Back then you had to have -all of it- committed to memory too!
I remember telling my IP that I wasn't sure I wanted to fly any airplane with 11 pages of Limitations!
02-06-2014 | 12:39 PM
#683
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Joined: Mar 2011
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From: Scratching my head in the right seat of a Douglas product
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No one doubts the ruthless cost savings mentality of regional/RFP/ACMI executives. But at the same time they know where their money comes from. That doesn't mean they still don't get burned from their own short sighted greed or misjudgment, but I'm sure any manager at CPZ knows the ramafications from DL, their only "customer", of significantly harming their operation from something as basic, guaranteed and predictable as that. Another variable is attrition outside the flow as the industry/hiring market rapidly starts to pick up steam. If CPZ staffed the absolute min and threw flows to DL indoc the second they could then got caught stuck in the chocks they would be in trouble. DL has made and makes bad decisions WRT regional providers, but one thing they always make sure they have is a big hammer to pound regionals that drop the ball operationally.
They might sit around all night worrying about how to save 2 cents in per diem off a 5 day, but they know if they get burned from something as basic as this they will get punished hard. There is a cost to hold back but it is very minimal, they carried it last time and they are carring it now at least to some degree.
No one doubts the ruthless cost savings mentality of regional/RFP/ACMI executives. But at the same time they know where their money comes from. That doesn't mean they still don't get burned from their own short sighted greed or misjudgment, but I'm sure any manager at CPZ knows the ramafications from DL, their only "customer", of significantly harming their operation from something as basic, guaranteed and predictable as that. Another variable is attrition outside the flow as the industry/hiring market rapidly starts to pick up steam. If CPZ staffed the absolute min and threw flows to DL indoc the second they could then got caught stuck in the chocks they would be in trouble. DL has made and makes bad decisions WRT regional providers, but one thing they always make sure they have is a big hammer to pound regionals that drop the ball operationally.
They might sit around all night worrying about how to save 2 cents in per diem off a 5 day, but they know if they get burned from something as basic as this they will get punished hard. There is a cost to hold back but it is very minimal, they carried it last time and they are carring it now at least to some degree.
I wasn't saying they would put the Compass flows in class at the first available moment while sacrificing the operation.
Someone asked why they would move it up from a (projected) 60 day hold back to a 45. Because if they think they can get by with that, they can save a lot of money.
Compass has pretty consistently been Delta's top performing regional for about the last year now, even before that we were near the top. Many of our performance stats are second only to Hawaiian's. But why wouldn't we work a little harder than most, we are getting a pretty damn good deal!
Like you said, I'm sure Compass would not hamstring the operation just to save $50 or $100k. But at the same time, they are gonna release guys as soon as they think they can. As I said before, that kinda of money isn't chump change, especially when your airline is owned by one man.
02-06-2014 | 12:46 PM
#684
veut gagner à la loterie
Joined: Apr 2008
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From: Light Chop
02-06-2014 | 12:51 PM
#685
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2013
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Sad slow down for OTS folks
In my mailbox:
All CJO Recipients,
As we move into the beginning of 2014 I want to provide each of you with an update regarding the status of pilot hiring at Delta Air Lines. In January the first true “off the street” (OTS) candidates began their Pilot Indoctrination training class. Following the nine day indoctrination training program, all of the new pilots began training on their assigned aircraft. There was a mix of assignments including the B-717, A-320, MD88/90 and the B-737 series. In February additional OTS pilots are starting the same training footprint so we’re moving in the right direction.
In March, the number of “flow” pilots will increase because we will be incorporating the first group of Compass Airlines’ pilots into the training footprint. This will reduce the number of OTS pilots that we can accommodate in our spring training classes until we receive approval from senior Delta management to increase our hiring authorization beyond the 300 currently authorized. We believe the need exists for these additional training slots and we’re very optimistic that they will be approved in the months ahead.
In September all “flow” pilots authorized for calendar 2014 will have been accommodated leaving all remaining 2014 training slots to our OTS pilots. We are very optimistic that ALL current CJO holders will be offered a training slot in 2014 although we cannot specifically guarantee that at this time.
As I’m sure you are all aware, Delta Air Lines led the airline industry in all categories in 2013, including profitability, and we anticipate an even stronger performance in 2014. I believe you have chosen well in making Delta your first choice for employment and we’re looking forward to incorporating your unique skills and leadership abilities into Delta’s Flight Operations team!
Best regards,
A.W. “Arnie” Kraby
Manager – Pilot Selection
All CJO Recipients,
As we move into the beginning of 2014 I want to provide each of you with an update regarding the status of pilot hiring at Delta Air Lines. In January the first true “off the street” (OTS) candidates began their Pilot Indoctrination training class. Following the nine day indoctrination training program, all of the new pilots began training on their assigned aircraft. There was a mix of assignments including the B-717, A-320, MD88/90 and the B-737 series. In February additional OTS pilots are starting the same training footprint so we’re moving in the right direction.
In March, the number of “flow” pilots will increase because we will be incorporating the first group of Compass Airlines’ pilots into the training footprint. This will reduce the number of OTS pilots that we can accommodate in our spring training classes until we receive approval from senior Delta management to increase our hiring authorization beyond the 300 currently authorized. We believe the need exists for these additional training slots and we’re very optimistic that they will be approved in the months ahead.
In September all “flow” pilots authorized for calendar 2014 will have been accommodated leaving all remaining 2014 training slots to our OTS pilots. We are very optimistic that ALL current CJO holders will be offered a training slot in 2014 although we cannot specifically guarantee that at this time.
As I’m sure you are all aware, Delta Air Lines led the airline industry in all categories in 2013, including profitability, and we anticipate an even stronger performance in 2014. I believe you have chosen well in making Delta your first choice for employment and we’re looking forward to incorporating your unique skills and leadership abilities into Delta’s Flight Operations team!
Best regards,
A.W. “Arnie” Kraby
Manager – Pilot Selection
02-06-2014 | 12:59 PM
#686
Da Hudge
Joined: Oct 2006
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From: Poodle Whisperer
In my mailbox:
All CJO Recipients,
As we move into the beginning of 2014 I want to provide each of you with an update regarding the status of pilot hiring at Delta Air Lines. In January the first true “off the street” (OTS) candidates began their Pilot Indoctrination training class. Following the nine day indoctrination training program, all of the new pilots began training on their assigned aircraft. There was a mix of assignments including the B-717, A-320, MD88/90 and the B-737 series. In February additional OTS pilots are starting the same training footprint so we’re moving in the right direction.
In March, the number of “flow” pilots will increase because we will be incorporating the first group of Compass Airlines’ pilots into the training footprint. This will reduce the number of OTS pilots that we can accommodate in our spring training classes until we receive approval from senior Delta management to increase our hiring authorization beyond the 300 currently authorized. We believe the need exists for these additional training slots and we’re very optimistic that they will be approved in the months ahead.
In September all “flow” pilots authorized for calendar 2014 will have been accommodated leaving all remaining 2014 training slots to our OTS pilots. We are very optimistic that ALL current CJO holders will be offered a training slot in 2014 although we cannot specifically guarantee that at this time.
As I’m sure you are all aware, Delta Air Lines led the airline industry in all categories in 2013, including profitability, and we anticipate an even stronger performance in 2014. I believe you have chosen well in making Delta your first choice for employment and we’re looking forward to incorporating your unique skills and leadership abilities into Delta’s Flight Operations team!
Best regards,
A.W. “Arnie” Kraby
Manager – Pilot Selection
All CJO Recipients,
As we move into the beginning of 2014 I want to provide each of you with an update regarding the status of pilot hiring at Delta Air Lines. In January the first true “off the street” (OTS) candidates began their Pilot Indoctrination training class. Following the nine day indoctrination training program, all of the new pilots began training on their assigned aircraft. There was a mix of assignments including the B-717, A-320, MD88/90 and the B-737 series. In February additional OTS pilots are starting the same training footprint so we’re moving in the right direction.
In March, the number of “flow” pilots will increase because we will be incorporating the first group of Compass Airlines’ pilots into the training footprint. This will reduce the number of OTS pilots that we can accommodate in our spring training classes until we receive approval from senior Delta management to increase our hiring authorization beyond the 300 currently authorized. We believe the need exists for these additional training slots and we’re very optimistic that they will be approved in the months ahead.
In September all “flow” pilots authorized for calendar 2014 will have been accommodated leaving all remaining 2014 training slots to our OTS pilots. We are very optimistic that ALL current CJO holders will be offered a training slot in 2014 although we cannot specifically guarantee that at this time.
As I’m sure you are all aware, Delta Air Lines led the airline industry in all categories in 2013, including profitability, and we anticipate an even stronger performance in 2014. I believe you have chosen well in making Delta your first choice for employment and we’re looking forward to incorporating your unique skills and leadership abilities into Delta’s Flight Operations team!
Best regards,
A.W. “Arnie” Kraby
Manager – Pilot Selection
02-06-2014 | 01:07 PM
#687
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Dec 2009
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From: 7ERB
Hang on or better yet hang in there.
TEN
02-06-2014 | 01:13 PM
#688
Gets Weekends Off
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02-06-2014 | 01:18 PM
#689
Gets Weekends Off
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From: 7ERB
Its true, with everybody speculating 600+/year and increased amount of OTS interviews, that the slow down is a let down.
Be positive. I think things will move faster than let believe. (Caveat: Viruses, Extreme Weather, Unknown and Devastating Financial Derivatives, Economic Bubbles, ULCC, Norwegian Air, OIL and finally Third World Upheaval)
TEN
02-06-2014 | 01:19 PM
#690
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Joined: Mar 2005
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I personally read it as a thumbs up overall...acknowledging that things are slow right now, but giving a specific reason as to why and a timeline where it may change.
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