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Old 12-07-2015 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tbj232
Not to burst your bubble, but I'm pretty sure there's a 2-year seat lock anytime you move to new equipment, including as a new-hire.
New hire seat lock is only 12 months.
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Old 12-07-2015 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by UnusualAttitude
New hire seat lock is only 12 months.
Most likely will go to 24 months if/when new TA is passed
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Old 12-07-2015 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Dash8driverMike
Most likely will go to 24 months if/when new TA is passed
Currently there is a 12 month seat lock on the equipment you are awarded/assigned as a new hire pilot.

There are caveats to this. For example, if a new category is formed, pilots may bid and be awarded the position even if the are currently in an equipment freeze.

Also, first time upgrade award is not subject to current equipment freeze.

*Information current as of 12/07/15.
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Old 12-07-2015 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dash8driverMike
Most likely will go to 24 months if/when new TA is passed
right, but people should be grandfathered in....
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Old 12-07-2015 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes
right, but people should be grandfathered in....
People already on property, or people in the pool?
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Old 12-07-2015 | 03:37 PM
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Why does it necessarily have to go away?

I actually buy the argument that some put out there that the low pay on the E190 would cause a constant bidding off of the equipment and coupled with the 1 year seat lock, would cost a ton of money in training cycles.

Wouldn't raising the E190 pay to 717 pay, or even 88 pay, solve a lot of the problems associated with a 1 year seat lock causing too many training cycles?

It actually seems like it shouldn't cost DALPA anything to raise E190 pay to where it should be, since it would help the company with the alleviating training cycles.
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Old 12-07-2015 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl
Why does it necessarily have to go away?

I actually buy the argument that some put out there that the low pay on the E190 would cause a constant bidding off of the equipment and coupled with the 1 year seat lock, would cost a ton of money in training cycles.

Wouldn't raising the E190 pay to 717 pay, or even 88 pay, solve a lot of the problems associated with a 1 year seat lock causing too many training cycles?

It actually seems like it shouldn't cost DALPA anything to raise E190 pay to where it should be, since it would help the company with the alleviating training cycles.
God! I love the new hires! Unfortunately, that's not how things work here. Wish it was, but nope. Everything, and I mean everything has a cost associated with it. Even something that would save the the company money, and not cost the pilots a dime will be parsed, and argued about ad infinitum.
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Old 12-07-2015 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
People already on property, or people in the pool?
on property.....the pool will be empty by the time a new TA is ratified.
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Old 12-07-2015 | 07:28 PM
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I left US Airways and the E190.... Good airplane. Lots of performance and as advanced as avionics get these days. There is definitely a huge training cost/surge over there as people bid both on & off the bird. Upgrade is about 1.5 years.... Then folks usually bid back to Airbus right seat because it pays more after about year 4 or 5 due to rates and schedule/seniority. Or they bid 75 or A330 FO. Better schedule, more pay, and better QOL. Lots of training surge....
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Old 12-08-2015 | 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Falcon20
28 OTS for Jan

2 Compass, 9 Endeavor SSP and 9 OTS for Dec
Correction: 1 Compass flow, 9 Endeavor SSP, 10 off the street, and one no show for yesterday.
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