One could still be a rep and not part of the "inner circle," eh?

Are you an MEC member, an MEC committee member, someone who has received FPL at any time this year, or some other elected official or appointed representative of the MEC?

I'll go first. I'm not.

I wonder if the survey should've had a question about whether we think seniority should matter for anything.

Mr. Plouffe, is that you? :)

I only ask the question because of the ER program.

I can't believe you guessed who I was. Is it that obvious?:eek:

Excellent question(s).

What say you, Shiznit?

I've long suspected it. It was a toss-up. Him, or Angry Randy.

It's funny, I've never been to any of those other boards and only went on the DALPA board because of the merger, but I remember both names. I give 'em a pass because they are the ones that have to live with their anger, but honestly I don't think either are any fun on a trip...I could be wrong. Heck if you can't have fun on a layover, what's the point? Anyway, I digress...

I think PD would be funny as heck on a layover.

Still pondering your answer shiznit? :rolleyes:

A lot of pilots match the wide net you just cast, that would be far from whatever you think the "inner circle" is - myself included.

We have over 600 committee volunteers, and the VAST majority go about their work quietly. I know Shiz well, and your attempt to discredit him on the basis that he has worked, and continues to work on the group's behalf is off target.

If you want to take issue with his math, then fine, but I'm sorry to disappoint you - he is not a member of some sinister club hell bent on "lowering your expectations." If you ever meet him in person you will quickly realize we need more guys like him if we're going to get the results we want.

To channel my inner Shiz:

1. Have you all done you survey yet?
2. Are you giving at least $5/paycheck to PAC? (Even our newbies are contributing to the PAC at a HIGH rate)
3. Do you regularly engage your reps?
4. Have you done the TWO Calls to Action that are waiting for 30 seconds of your time? ALPA On the Issues

If 12,087ish pilots would just complete the 4 simple items above, we would be a lot closer to achieving what you, 88 Driver, Jerry, Shiz and I all want. Believe it or not we're all on the same team here.

We're all on the same team but we have different ideas about what we can and should achieve. The predominant thinking within our MEC is that the kind of improvements it would take to restore the standard of living provided by our compensation in the 1980's, 1990's, and early 2000's would be "unreasonable" and therefore unattainable. In other words, bankruptcy was a reset. But they know that if they came out and actually SAID that, they'd have a problem. So instead, they make their objective (mission statement) nebulous so that ANY improvement they get can satisfy it. And they work to lower expectations for those of us who believe restoration is appropriate and worth at least a try.

I know I've said all that a thousand times... but I still haven't seen anything from DALPA that would make me change my mind about it.