Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 1899542)

Have you looked at the Facebook comments. I would argue it's a larger sample size and it running overwhelming no..........

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1899587)

But in coming up with a dollar value of the TA and applying that to the pay rates only would, by definition, take 100% of the company's financial concerns into account. They were all part of the up and down costing of every section. We'd be effectively paying to undo the concessions with full value reductions from the pay rates. Why on earth would they object to that? Its the ultimate "cost neutral" approach. It wouldn't cost a penny more than the current TA.

Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1899582)

Before we lock-in 50% block hours, here's some actual DALPA Data on the JV for comparison:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Brief%2001.png


Cheers
George

Originally Posted by cogf16 (Post 1899589)

ygbfsmm, subtracted a useless little word and added 2 good ones:d last one is man, you can figure the other one!

Originally Posted by WARich (Post 1899551)

I'm just curious what everyone thinks the fair market value of a pilot is compensation wise? How much realistically should pilots make while taking into account not putting the company eventually in financial pain if there is an economic downturn?

Originally Posted by Sounds (Post 1899597)

Is this your first online community? Have you encontered the term vocal minority? The small group of individuals that frequently and strongly voice their opinions, constrasting with the silent majority that makes up most of the population base, but rarely give their opinions.

Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1899582)

Before we lock-in 50% block hours, here's some actual DALPA Data on the JV for comparison:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...Brief%2001.png



Cheers
George

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1899568)

I don't see this as a big backfire. After talking with several reps it may be it does not pass tomorrow. It's not the end of the world to send the NC back to the company. On the other hand substantial improvements are not likely. 2 to 3 % more in pay would probably cement a pass assuming the rumors on the JV section are not correct. My discussions say the JV section is fine and there will be more explanation to follow.

Originally Posted by D Mantooth (Post 1899605)

George, please keep in mind that those don't include Alitalia, and they do include our UK flying which wouldn't be counted under the TA. The block hour ratio today is considerably different.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1899599)

Ouch.

So why isn't it 70%? Seems that'd even out the miles. Why did they post that?