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Oberon 09-21-2014 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by EdGrimley (Post 1731697)
The importance of well defined goals

Define your goals

The importance of specific targets

For your goals to be useful, they must be specific and clearly defined.

Specific goals include the following examples:

I want to gain 50 new incoming links by the end of the month
I want to gain 100 new forum members each day
I want to make $100 a day in advertising revenue

Non-specific, and consequently worthless, goals include:

I want to be successful
I want to make money

I don't see the step where you make up an arbitrary goal then tell the forum members.

80ktsClamp 09-21-2014 05:06 PM

Oberon-

You're a noob (nothing wrong with that... we've all been there), and if you've been paying attention and know the contract history you'd have some valid input. Yet you've openly admitted that you don't know nor understand what has been going on with our contracts and negotiations all while preaching like you know it all. Then on top of that, you say you don't even know who your reps are. Really?

Might want to tone it down a bit. Your credibility is absolutely shot at this point. A little more listening and a lot less know-it-all preaching is in order.

Spudhauler 09-21-2014 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1731746)
Oberon-

You're a noob (nothing wrong with that... we've all been there), and if you've been paying attention and know the contract history you'd have some valid input. Yet you've openly admitted that you don't know nor understand what has been going on with our contracts and negotiations all while preaching like you know it all. Then on top of that, you say you don't even know who your reps are. Really?

Might want to tone it down a bit. Your credibility is absolutely shot at this point. A little more listening and a lot less know-it-all preaching is in order.


Yeah, this place is well known for listening and not being preachy. I do like the irony, though.

Flamer 09-21-2014 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1731639)
OK. Then I don't want that. I'm honestly not a contract expert. My larger point is that there are proven methods of negotiating and saying "restoration" isn't one of them.

I got sucked in to PD's vortex.

You might want to take a look at the contract before you espouse the best ways to make it better. And, since you are working under it now. Objectives of pilots are always specific, that is what makes them measure able. Not sure where you came from before DAL, but something is suspect here.

76drvr 09-21-2014 11:41 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1731746)

Might want to tone it down a bit. Your credibility is absolutely shot at this point. A little more listening and a lot less know-it-all preaching is in order.

Wow! Tool of the day arrogance right there.

ShyGuy 09-22-2014 12:39 AM

You must be GGTA to want less training for more money (vacation) instead. Who needs recurrent training anyway? :rolleyes: IMO training should never be compromised for a personal gain.

index 09-22-2014 01:04 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1731746)
Might want to tone it down a bit. Your credibility is absolutely shot at this point. A little more listening and a lot less know-it-all preaching is in order.


Originally Posted by 76drvr (Post 1731916)
Wow! Tool of the day arrogance right there.

Really? He's right about this. I'd say you are more deserving for T.O.T.D. for your analysis.

Wingnutdal 09-22-2014 03:14 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 1731621)
concession tag-teaming...

P.S.
Oberon: You started here on March 3rd, and you are still on probation. You've been to Delta training in Atlanta exactly once, and you already "don't like going to Atlanta for training" and think it would be good if you didn't have to go "as often."

For real?

Your credibility is officially in the ****ter.

Well, you are a tool, so what does that do for your credibility?

Wingnutdal 09-22-2014 03:17 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1731746)
Oberon-

You're a noob (nothing wrong with that... we've all been there), and if you've been paying attention and know the contract history you'd have some valid input. Yet you've openly admitted that you don't know nor understand what has been going on with our contracts and negotiations all while preaching like you know it all. Then on top of that, you say you don't even know who your reps are. Really?

Might want to tone it down a bit. Your credibility is absolutely shot at this point. A little more listening and a lot less know-it-all preaching is in order.

I am sure you will remember this advice the next time your friend starts talking about rocking chairs and things that "we" have done.

Makin Waves 09-22-2014 03:39 AM

Does anyone know where I can get a look at the C2015 proposal?

Thanks...


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