You mean "13, 3, 3?"

Because the "4" was six months prior to the amenable date, and the "8" was on the amenable date, which is something other pilot groups rarely if ever get. Compounded on top of each other we got a 13% pay raise by the amenable date of the contract.

4/8/3/3 gets tossed about by guys so much they post it as some pejorative term. But "13/3/3" doesn't sound quite so "bad."

That said, I wouldn't vote for "13/3/3" in today's negotiating environment. We deserve more.

Well yeah... obviously there's some level of hourly pay increase, more vacation pay, etc. that would not only "get us close" but would completely close the gap. It would have to be more than 4833. I still don't want too high a percentage of our pay "at risk."

I like the tip jar idea! :D Imagine if they tipped each of us the same way they'd tip a waiter for say a $15 meal. 3 bucks a piece and I've doubled my pay from last year! :eek:

I hear you. I'm just thinking that the more risk I'm willing to take, the greater the potential returns. Whenever I look with envy at the raises enjoyed by upper management, I am always reminded of just how much of that pay is at risk, too.

There's probably an acceptable balance in there somewhere. ;)

More like 11, 3, 3, as the other two was simply a profit sharing conversion.

Agreed.

Herk,

If you voted for it in '12, you'd vote for it again today.

"Deserve" what a lame word choice.

I'm not trying to make this personal, but really.

For all the regular yes voters out there, the difference between a yes and a no is that with a no, you actually push the no button. The universe will not separate at the seams when this is done.

Everybody should fill out the survey, stay engaged with their reps, study whatever TA is put in front of us...but if the TA deserves a "no", then for cryin' out loud, push no.

Yep. I agree. Although it should be pointed out that taking more risk does not necessarily mean greater potential returns. That's one of the fundamental principles I rely on for my investing. Risk should always be managed carefully.

The airborne "tip jar" is coming again, in just ten short days. It's known as Breast Cancer Awareness month at Delta. Some of the flight attendant's get a little much when begging for donations from paying passengers.
GJ

Subtract 2% per year for inflation, and that becomes 911! :eek:

Absolutely. I think the term "restoration" however is meaningless. I prefer to look forward and not back. If I had just learned to hit a hanging curveball I wouldn't be talking to any of youse guys.
You doing OK after this weekend? ouch.