Fixed your post Alfa.

Outside the DALPA echo chamber, people discuss various topics without the concern of being labeled as someone against unity. Outside the DALPA echo chamber, we line pilots who really trudge away doing the important work don't think you're weak and spineless. We just think your philosophy of appeasing management at all costs is not best for us.

You prefer being back on the inside Alfa. The real world has made you even grumpier than when you were in the echo chamber.

I don't hide my fear, I clearly state it. Our bargaining agent for C2015 will not discuss a clear objective. That agent will not release survey results, our opening position, or a study showing how much money Delta pilots have given since 2004. That agent lost a lawsuit by TWA pilots for failing to represent them, and tried to bust the union of its own internal clerical workers. That leaves me fearful for our futures.

Carl

Yep, we had over 1000 727 and L1011 C's at one time.

What's your true objective Carl? You've been less than truthful about your outside business dealings and how they relate to us, which can lead me to no other conclusion that there is no way in hell you are as altruistic that you are pretending to be. That and all the stuff you make up on an almost daily basis...

You are an executive at a large company. That is a provable fact. One with a debatable conflict of interest and a real conflict to what you present here as to your reasons for hating ALPA so much.

This place... due to the simple fact that it is an anonymous blog does nothing to get the decertification that would be so beneficial to your personal life. No... you are nothing more than a grenade thrower and a ladder climber. You've reached the top here... now it's on to bigger more lucrative ones. The sad thing is that you will leave the rest of those that buy into your crapola here in the chaos that will no longer affect you. My only hope at this point is that the lurkers can see thru your rhetoric for what it truly is.

It's crystal clear who you are Carl.. Crystal.

The bulk of the job loss in that time frame was due to large productivity changes in the contracts. We could go to straight FAR's now and it would be far less job loss then back then. We also have much better furlough protection now then back then.

Here is my confusion with this series of posts: Are we saying the company used to spend 35% of our gross to fund the DB? I need an R&I expert here, but I gotta think that is waay high. Greater than 15% yes, but 35%?? Need expert input, not Forumnomics. OFG

No, the 'funding' for our DB plan varied year to year, based on what it had earned in the market. In up years, when the fund increased by more than 6% (?) the company didn't have to make ANY contributions at all! NOTHING! There was as period in the mid 90's I think when the company made ZERO contributions for about 5 years straight, due to the market runup. But when it tanked after 9-11, the bill came due.

In down years, the company had to make contributions to bring the fund up to that 6% line, which could cost them a bundle depending on how little the fund had earned (or how much it lost) in the market.

I'm no R+I expert, perhaps there's one here who can give all the gory details, but the company absolutely saved Billions by flushing our DB plan and putting us on a DC plan.

Today, one of Delta's biggest outstanding debts (in the Billions) is the funding of the frozen NW DB plans.

I've been 100% truthful. I've just not answered questions by people who are clearly trying to out me publicly. Not answering questions is not being untruthful. My outside businesses have zero relation to Delta. Zero. I work and consult with aircraft OEM's, training organizations, physician organizations and serve on a board. That's the complete extent of my outside business activities. None of them affect Delta or ALPA, nor are they affected by anything that would happen at Delta or ALPA.

You say that frequently, yet every time I've asked you for an example of me "making stuff up", you go radio silent. When I state facts, I post links and documents. When I give my opinions, I don't say they are facts.

This is the same mudslinging that Rather B Fishin tried on the United thread that got closed because you guys wouldn't stop with the attempts at public outing. It appears to me you guys go to extraordinary lengths to shut people up with whom you disagree. It's really weak. When I got banned for teasing a moderator, you said it was long overdue and was glad to finally see me gone. When you got banned for flame bait, I wrote the moderators asking them to reinstate you as quick as possible. I did that because even though I agree with almost nothing from you, I didn't want to see your opinions silenced. That's the difference between us.

Decertification of ALPA will have no affect on my personal life. I want a real union instead of ALPA. You accuse me of making stuff up and you write this? It's completely wrong. This is indeed an anonymous blog yet you speak of me like we know each other. I've never met or spoken to you.

The only chaos left behind will be that created by DALPA tsquare. DPA is destined not to happen. This is like Obama blaming George W Bush. Everyone will get to see the results of ALPA/DALPA representation and will decide for themselves who should be credited and blamed.

Carl

Blah, blah, blah, blah. Typical Carl bloviation. You are tough and I am weak, I get it. Just saddle up Carl and take control and do something. Well, nope maybe later. You will just whine and complain and attack and bloviate like usual. Hiding behind your little keyboard you are a really tough guy. I guess if I am not a line pilot I don't have to sit short call tomorrow. Will you call my Chief Pilot and get that fixed for me? It would be nice to have a beer while watching football.

Look, if you really believe one thousandth of what you say here, you would call up Richard Anderson, arrange a meeting and tell him the what, what. Give it to him with both barrels. I mean you are such a tough guy you should be able to break him down in a minute or two. And then it will be raining money. Give us a full report after you have that meeting.

Right now I just can't afford to be on the inside. First I would have to recover from the frying pan smack on the skull from my wife and then I would have to cut my pay by about 10-20%. I just looked at my YTD W2 for the profit sharing check and I have already made more than in 2012 when I supposedly was living the ALPA dream. Still got three more months to go and I am in a lower paying piece of equipment. So, no, not looking to get back on the inside, I will be a cheerleader this time.

I just enjoy exposing you for what you are. A keyboard warrior that is too chicken to ever step up and put the fate of 12,000 pilots' careers in your hands. You over compensate with your boasting and personal attacks. I think your act is wearing thin with most people by now. Which of course makes you even more desperate. I am not any grumpier, just more willing to expose you for what you are. A fraud.

Then tell your boy to shut it down.

The rest of your post is the usual spin. Interesting, but desperate.... spin. I'm not keeping an archive of Carl, so I am not going to re-post stuff that you have made up, and flat out lied about. I'll let those lurking decide that for themselves. Maybe I am all wet. Maybe I am wrong in their eyes. But I'll let them decide. You keep right on doing what you are doing which is nothing but lobbing grenades from the safety of your executive office. Yup... know all about that too. ;)

How could that be? I keep hearing that FPL is a gravy train of epic proportions...