Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1739139)

Another thing to consider is the lower cost of debt servicing. It has been put out that when our company debt gets down to 5 Billion (B), from whatever ungodly number it peaked at, DAL will be saving 1B/year on interest payments. Let me say that again 1B a year!

We are currently looking at a very, very, favorable negotiating environment. Lets hope we make the most of it.

Scoop :)

Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1739143)

Agreed. I'm well aware that I could be furloughed and I think I've laid out the risks clearly enough. I'm just not afraid of being furloughed. I've been there before, I've stashed a few pennies away and am willing to drink a bit less Oberon to make ends meet.

Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 1739206)

Oberon,

You've kind of been there before. I know you've been furloughed from an airline job, however you have not been furloughed from a major airline job. A lot of people will not even talk to you about a job while on furlough because they KNOW you will eventually get called back and WILL leave. Not so much if furloughed from another regional airline.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1739124)

No. You said I frequently referred to you as an "operative". Please show me where.

Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1739140)

Posts 2198, 2211, 2244, and 2267.

Originally Posted by Oberon (Post 1739058)

Liar, liar, pants on fire.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1734110)

Let me summarize all this above. I'm not stating what "group" you're part of. You're the one doing that. I'm talking about you as an individual. As an individual, your posts are designed to ensure pilot costs are minimized. Period. You're clearly being managed by someone within DALPA or management (not that there's a difference) to post on web forums to ensure the message of minimizing pilot costs to Delta. The person who is managing you is absolutely doing the bidding of a Ford and Harrison union buster.

Hope this helps.

Carl

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1739103)

Delta South had 10,400 pilots on the list on 9-11-2001.

At the time of the merger with NW, DL south had about 7,300.

That's a loss of 3,100 pilot jobs.

You are smoking crack if you think it can't happen again. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1739283)

Are you one of the problem children know it alls they've had trouble with in indoc?

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1739009)

Look folks, there's a reason DALPA won't touch the word restoration. There's a reason why guys like alfaromeo, slowplay, shiznit, tsquare, etc., won't ever use the word except to denigrate its use. There's a reason newbies like Oberon constantly state their opinions that restoration means nothing to anybody during negotiations. The reason all these various DALPA-oids hate that word is because it's so powerfully righteous. Restoration in C2K was used as an objective, a baseline, a rallying cry, and an easily understood argument to the NMB if it had come to that. Restoration worked.

When the Oberons out there continuously rant against the use of the word restoration, they're not doing so as advice to seek alternatives that would work better for us. They're doing so to desperately try to convince us to voluntarily surrender on the proven objective that would work.

Carl