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09-22-2014 | 06:32 AM
#2091
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You mean "13, 3, 3?"
Because the "4" was six months prior to the amenable date, and the "8" was on the amenable date, which is something other pilot groups rarely if ever get. Compounded on top of each other we got a 13% pay raise by the amenable date of the contract.
4/8/3/3 gets tossed about by guys so much they post it as some pejorative term. But "13/3/3" doesn't sound quite so "bad."
That said, I wouldn't vote for "13/3/3" in today's negotiating environment. We deserve more.
Because the "4" was six months prior to the amenable date, and the "8" was on the amenable date, which is something other pilot groups rarely if ever get. Compounded on top of each other we got a 13% pay raise by the amenable date of the contract.
4/8/3/3 gets tossed about by guys so much they post it as some pejorative term. But "13/3/3" doesn't sound quite so "bad."
That said, I wouldn't vote for "13/3/3" in today's negotiating environment. We deserve more.
09-22-2014 | 06:34 AM
#2092
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From: Retired (mandatory age 65)
Agreed. But I don't believe that Delta made as much money last year as they had in the late 90's leading up to C2K in adjusted dollars. We're just now there this year. I heard at the roadshow recently that we're on track to almost double the profit sharing we got last year.
Wouldn't that plus some kind of hourly pay increase, more vacation, etc., at least get us close?
Wouldn't that plus some kind of hourly pay increase, more vacation, etc., at least get us close?
09-22-2014 | 06:38 AM
#2093
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From: Retired (mandatory age 65)
Imagine if they tipped each of us the same way they'd tip a waiter for say a $15 meal. 3 bucks a piece and I've doubled my pay from last year! 
09-22-2014 | 06:40 AM
#2094
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I hear you. I'm just thinking that the more risk I'm willing to take, the greater the potential returns. Whenever I look with envy at the raises enjoyed by upper management, I am always reminded of just how much of that pay is at risk, too.
There's probably an acceptable balance in there somewhere.
There's probably an acceptable balance in there somewhere.
09-22-2014 | 06:42 AM
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09-22-2014 | 06:43 AM
#2096
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From: 777B
You mean "13, 3, 3?"
Because the "4" was six months prior to the amenable date, and the "8" was on the amenable date, which is something other pilot groups rarely if ever get. Compounded on top of each other we got a 13% pay raise by the amenable date of the contract.
4/8/3/3 gets tossed about by guys so much they post it as some pejorative term. But "13/3/3" doesn't sound quite so "bad."
That said, I wouldn't vote for "13/3/3" in today's negotiating environment. We deserve more.
Because the "4" was six months prior to the amenable date, and the "8" was on the amenable date, which is something other pilot groups rarely if ever get. Compounded on top of each other we got a 13% pay raise by the amenable date of the contract.
4/8/3/3 gets tossed about by guys so much they post it as some pejorative term. But "13/3/3" doesn't sound quite so "bad."
That said, I wouldn't vote for "13/3/3" in today's negotiating environment. We deserve more.
If you voted for it in '12, you'd vote for it again today.
"Deserve" what a lame word choice.
I'm not trying to make this personal, but really.
For all the regular yes voters out there, the difference between a yes and a no is that with a no, you actually push the no button. The universe will not separate at the seams when this is done.
Everybody should fill out the survey, stay engaged with their reps, study whatever TA is put in front of us...but if the TA deserves a "no", then for cryin' out loud, push no.
09-22-2014 | 06:43 AM
#2097
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From: Retired (mandatory age 65)
I hear you. I'm just thinking that the more risk I'm willing to take, the greater the potential returns. Whenever I look with envy at the raises enjoyed by upper management, I am always reminded of just how much of that pay is at risk, too.
There's probably an acceptable balance in there somewhere.
There's probably an acceptable balance in there somewhere.
09-22-2014 | 06:44 AM
#2098
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09-22-2014 | 06:52 AM
#2100
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From: 767er Captain
That is true, however I kinda disagree. I'm an '07 hire which means I haven't lost anything in the BK. However, I came here (from another major btw) with the expectation that at some point we could be back to pre BK wages. So while I may not have a "dog" in the fight, that doesn't mean I shouldn't want restoration. Hope that made sense.
You doing OK after this weekend? ouch.
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