Announced at the investor conference:rolleyes: RA "we have an agreement with our partners at Dalpa. The agreement is cash positive for the company. With a combination of a reduction in profit sharing, more productivity(made possible by all pilots flying 90 hrs per month due to no pilots ever calling in sick because the harassment we provide is not worth it, no pilots double dipping by flying with LCAs and longer training freezes) we were able to give them a 4/8/3/3 contractual pay raises. I would like to especially thank our(excuse me, Dalpas) subject matter experts that put together the wonderful spreadsheets that showed the obstinate reps the perilous position that Delta would find itself in if the pilot contract was a win for the pilots. Going forward this contract will allow Delta to give more back to our owners(mutual funds, hedge funds and of course me and my team), gamble more on fuel hedging, and invest in foreign airlines so we can provide the Delta holding company with less expensive international lift"

Not that more regional jets would be good but no:

He stated, "what if they asked for 25 more 76-sweaters"...

And included that the offer was tied to a 4-1 mainline:RJ ratio of B717-sized (100-seat) jets ie for every 1 additional RJ 4 more baby-mainline jets.

So no not entertaining bigger jets off property, just more of current limit.

Besides the negative implication of any more trades, why do the scope deals always involve the smallest mainline? Why not tie any increase of small jet (outsource) flying (76 or less seats) to acquisition of A330 and bigger (74, 380, 76ER, 777,etc)?

You know more than me if you know what all the pet issues are.. I was just speculating in very general terms of what might be happening.

Man your reading comprehension is bad!

Moak said to us during a road show, he believed RJ's presented an opportunity for new pilots to pay their dues, and provide feed to mainline, which, in turn, led to increased mainline growth. Many of his followers share that same view.

I want RJ scope tied to the planes that are most closely related to the same type of flying. A reduction of total RJ's, keeping the line at 76, and a reduction of block hours, ASM's, and seats is the only acceptable direction for this part of our scope.

When DAL adds 35 A330's and 25 A350's over the next 3-4 years, we don't want that to be a trigger on RJ limits.

If the New York reps are holding up (and possibly exchanging) more money for everyone in exchange for cabs for commuters, surely they are also working for a stipend to pay the higher living expenses of their pilots who live in New York?

Or do they only represent the NYC commuters?

Yup those were his views. He told a room of Compass pilot back in 2009 as to why American did not have growth was due to not having 76 seat airplanes and if they had 76 seat they would grown immediately.

The funny part was Compass had a few AA furloughs and one was in the room. Let's just say he did not agree

The "tri base" in NYC is abject fantasy. Its unrealistic, for locals or commuters alike, to expect to cover that much logistical real estate. You can only live/crashpad/hotel in one place and no matter where you pick the "tri base" is completely unrealistic.

The cost for cabs, or more realistically for an increased capacity shuttle system (perhaps with the occasional cab to cover rare peak overflows) is so low it wouldn't move the needle and would increase reliability and operational integrity.

Base specific COLA on the other hand is a treacherous can of worms that is absolutely unworkable.

Neither is a commuter vs local issue either. Not to mention most "locals" are still commuters.

Years ago we made numerous complaints about the requirements to get to EWR. The company agreed to quit building rotations out of EWR. This was followed almost immediately by massive complaints from pilots who wanted the EWR trips back. It's kind of like CDO's. You have a group of pilots who wanted them and when they made a appearance a big group wanted them killed. Pleasing pilots is probably harder then sending a manned mission to Mars!