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Old 06-05-2015 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
Uh, huh. Nice antiseptic version. So why don't you tell us all who you work for, what position you hold there and what is your "boss's" stance on labor unions?
I work/consult with 6 companies right now Tsquare. Some of those CEO's are indeed anti-labor, but others are very liberal and pro-labor.

Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
Could that possibly have anything to do with your hatred for all things dALPA and your passionate desire for decertification?
Your characterization of me is wrong tsquare. I don't "hate" all things DALPA. in fact, I think our safety and training folks are really sharp and well respected guys. Same with our R&I guys. My desire for decertification was based on my desire to continue being represented by a union. DALPA is currently not behaving as such, so I want it replaced with a real, actual union...not a pretend one.

Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
Naaaah, couldn't be, you are way too above board for that. You're just looking out for the little guy.
I'm looking out for all of us tsquare. A new union is what I thought would be best for all Delta pilots. I still think that. But our pilots spoke when DPA couldn't get more than 50% of the cards. When that became clear to me, I let my DPA card expire. If the issue ever comes up again and Delta pilots desire to replace ALPA with a real union, I'll send in another card for certain. Unless ALPA starts behaving like a union again.

Sorry again folks...now back to thread's subject.

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Old 06-05-2015 | 09:24 AM
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Well Carl. We will have to all take you at your word. Thank you for the clarification.

Would any of the companies you consult for benefit from either a change in union leadership or dal going non union?
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Old 06-05-2015 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
The fix is: give it to me now so I can evaluate it along side my reps and provide feedback. The survey is a year old. I want to ensure my direction is followed.

Can you help arrange that?
Exactly right.

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Old 06-05-2015 | 09:34 AM
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This was forwarded to me, doyd…

Generic Napkin Math, based on 2014 PS %, percentages if incorrect would still be comparable.

"Typical MD-88 Captain"

Rumored:

2015
75 hours @ $206 Jan thru July = $108,150
75 Hours @ $223 Aug - Dec = $83,430 (8% DOS)
Total Salary = $191,580
Est. Profit Sharing @ 16.5% = $31,610
Total Compensation = $223,190

2016
Salary @ 236 ( 6% -1/1/16) = $212,400
Est. Profit sharing = $23,347 (33% reduction or 5.75% decrease)
Total = $235,764

2 Year Total compensation with rumored raises= $458,954

Status Quo

2015
Salary @ $206 = $185,400
Est. Profit Sharing = $30,591
Total = $215,991
2016
Salary @ $212.18 = $190,962
Est. Profit Sharing = $31,508
Total = $222,470

2 Year Total compensation without TA = $438, 461

Rumored = 458, 954
Staus Quo = 438,661
Difference = $20,492 over 2 years or Approx 2.25% raise per year…….

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Old 06-05-2015 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Professor
Well Carl. We will have to all take you at your word. Thank you for the clarification.

Would any of the companies you consult for benefit from either a change in union leadership or dal going non union?
Not in any way, shape or form. When you do this kind of work, you have to sign numerous documents disclosing any conflicts of interests or even the appearance of a conflict. It is something you have to watch very carefully because it's not enough to be non-conflicted with the airline or ALPA, it can't conflict with anything done by the other six companies.

The only way I would ever benefit from the decertification of ALPA would be my strong belief that what's remaining of my career at Delta would be better.

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Old 06-05-2015 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Not in any way, shape or form. When you do this kind of work, you have to sign numerous documents disclosing any conflicts of interests or even the appearance of a conflict. It is something you have to watch very carefully because it's not enough to be non-conflicted with the airline or ALPA, it can't conflict with anything done by the other six companies.



The only way I would ever benefit from the decertification of ALPA would be my strong belief that what's remaining of my career at Delta would be better.



Carl

Thanks Carl. I appreciate your honesty.
Seriously.
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Old 06-05-2015 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Professor
Thanks Carl. I appreciate your honesty.
Seriously.
You're welcome.

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Old 06-05-2015 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Whip Whitaker
Really? Thats interesting because looking at the Gen Dec from my flight today, the Purser was in her 40's and there were three cabin crew in their 30's.
Also, I have personally never heard of an EK pilot getting his pay withheld. Anything else you would like to make up Grumble?
Well since I was at the Long Bar in the Roatan Towers a few weeks ago, and was told by my 777CA bud, and several of his friends, the same thing over multiple instances... you tell me. Suppose they didn't leave that pregnant flight attendant in South Africa a few years ago either?

Fact of the matter, is EK and the UAE have reprehensible labor and human rights laws... and even if any of those things didn't happen the fact that it's totally believable says a whole lot.

Hope you guys never planned on coming home and flying, you're helping them attack your home turf.
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Old 06-05-2015 | 09:40 AM
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[QUOTE=boog123;1896424]This was forwarded to me, doyd…
Rumored = 458, 954
Staus Quo = 438,661
Difference = $20,492 or Approx 2.25% raise per year…….[/QUOTE

If these numbers/rumor is correct I'm trying to imagine what else would be in the TA that would prompt me to vote yes. I can't come up with enough stuff, and I have an active imagination.
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Old 06-05-2015 | 09:44 AM
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[QUOTE=trico;1896432]
Originally Posted by boog123
This was forwarded to me, doyd…
Rumored = 458, 954
Staus Quo = 438,661
Difference = $20,492 or Approx 2.25% raise per year…….[/QUOTE

If these numbers/rumor is correct I'm trying to imagine what else would be in the TA that would prompt me to vote yes. I can't come up with enough stuff, and I have an active imagination.
It appears that these numbers are just multiplication and base month assumptions… With a reduction in PS, I just can't believe this acceptable to the MEC, let alone the members.

If this is the best we can do in RECORD TIMES, imagine what we give up when things may turn south……judas priest.
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