Details on Delta TA
06-05-2015, 10:10 AM
#5712
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Originally Posted by D Mantooth
I couldn't design a website if my life depended on it! And I hate golf!
Lest we think he's a neutral observer...He obviously has a vested interest in keeping the gravy train rolling smoothly.
06-05-2015, 10:19 AM
#5713
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Posts: 93
10 years ago (give or take), management couldn't give profit sharing away. Airlines were losing money at a staggering rate.
Now airlines are profitable, pilot groups are clamoring to hang on to profit sharing, even though when "things turn south" (they always seem to do, if you believe history), the profit sharing payout is the only thing assured to take a hit. That is straight up, dollars gone. Seems to be a lot of trust in management these days.
Maybe a rhetorical question, but why?
Skipper
Now airlines are profitable, pilot groups are clamoring to hang on to profit sharing, even though when "things turn south" (they always seem to do, if you believe history), the profit sharing payout is the only thing assured to take a hit. That is straight up, dollars gone. Seems to be a lot of trust in management these days.
Maybe a rhetorical question, but why?
Skipper
06-05-2015, 10:20 AM
#5714
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Position: 7ERB
Posts: 2,039
Originally Posted by notEnuf
This was forwarded to me:
Don't sign anything until I review it.
From my lawyer.
Don't sign anything until I review it.
From my lawyer.
TRUST BUT VERIFY.
TEN
06-05-2015, 10:28 AM
#5716
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Position: stake holder ir.delta.com
Posts: 10,065
If you would like to see the TA, change your signature to SHOW ME THE TA!
Maybe we will be noticed. Any other ideas to make your public voice heard? Of course, contact all reps not just your reps.
Maybe we will be noticed. Any other ideas to make your public voice heard? Of course, contact all reps not just your reps.
06-05-2015, 10:29 AM
#5717
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Posts: 181
Originally Posted by boog123
This was forwarded to me, doyd…
Generic Napkin Math, based on 2014 PS %, percentages if incorrect would still be comparable.
"Typical MD-88 Captain"
Rumored:
2015
75 hours @ $206 Jan thru July = $108,150
75 Hours @ $223 Aug - Dec = $83,430 (8% DOS)
Total Salary = $191,580
Est. Profit Sharing @ 16.5% = $31,610
Total Compensation = $223,190
2016
Salary @ 236 ( 6% -1/1/16) = $212,400
Est. Profit sharing = $23,347 (33% reduction or 5.75% decrease)
Total = $235,764
2 Year Total compensation with rumored raises= $458,954
Status Quo
2015
Salary @ $206 = $185,400
Est. Profit Sharing = $30,591
Total = $215,991
2016
Salary @ $212.18 = $190,962
Est. Profit Sharing = $31,508
Total = $222,470
2 Year Total compensation without TA = $438, 461
Rumored = 458, 954
Staus Quo = 438,661
Difference = $20,492 over 2 years or Approx 2.25% raise per year…….
Generic Napkin Math, based on 2014 PS %, percentages if incorrect would still be comparable.
"Typical MD-88 Captain"
Rumored:
2015
75 hours @ $206 Jan thru July = $108,150
75 Hours @ $223 Aug - Dec = $83,430 (8% DOS)
Total Salary = $191,580
Est. Profit Sharing @ 16.5% = $31,610
Total Compensation = $223,190
2016
Salary @ 236 ( 6% -1/1/16) = $212,400
Est. Profit sharing = $23,347 (33% reduction or 5.75% decrease)
Total = $235,764
2 Year Total compensation with rumored raises= $458,954
Status Quo
2015
Salary @ $206 = $185,400
Est. Profit Sharing = $30,591
Total = $215,991
2016
Salary @ $212.18 = $190,962
Est. Profit Sharing = $31,508
Total = $222,470
2 Year Total compensation without TA = $438, 461
Rumored = 458, 954
Staus Quo = 438,661
Difference = $20,492 over 2 years or Approx 2.25% raise per year…….
Why does the "status quo" hourly rate increase from $206 in 2015 to $212.18 in 2016?
If there is no new contract the pay will not increase.
06-05-2015, 10:32 AM
#5718
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Position: 747-400 Captain
Posts: 12,487
Originally Posted by D Mantooth
I couldn't design a website if my life depended on it! And I hate golf!
But if I ever did learn to design one, I think my first one would be www.PDisamiserabletool.com!
Good try though. If you're going to make accusations, make sure they're accurate. Otherwise people might start to question the rest of the "facts" you spew.
But if I ever did learn to design one, I think my first one would be www.PDisamiserabletool.com!
Good try though. If you're going to make accusations, make sure they're accurate. Otherwise people might start to question the rest of the "facts" you spew.
Carl
06-05-2015, 10:35 AM
#5719
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Position: Capt
Posts: 2,041
Originally Posted by Army80
Why does the "status quo" hourly rate increase from $206 in 2015 to $212.18 in 2016?
If there is no new contract the pay will not increase.
If there is no new contract the pay will not increase.
06-05-2015, 10:37 AM
#5720
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Posts: 260
Originally Posted by TheManager
So, PD was right when he said: "Mantooth was paid FPL (I.e., our dues money) to organize and attend the ALPA golf tournament. I say again. We paid him to golf."
Lest we think he's a neutral observer...He obviously has a vested interest in keeping the gravy train rolling smoothly.
Lest we think he's a neutral observer...He obviously has a vested interest in keeping the gravy train rolling smoothly.
In short, I'm not the droid you are looking for.
If I cared more about the accuser, I might be a bit more resentful of the accusation!
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