Details on Delta TA
06-04-2015, 08:05 PM
#5611
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Originally Posted by Professor
Um yeah, I'm here for the gangbang.
06-04-2015, 08:18 PM
#5612
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
I posed the LCA trip bump question in both the UA and US/AA sub-forums. Take a gander over there.
This is NOT me vouching for the validity of the rumor, just gathering information. I'd be unpleasantly surprised if that was in the TA, as that is certainly an abrogation of seniority. I believe UA has the same deal as us along with much more lenient freezes for changing categories.
This is NOT me vouching for the validity of the rumor, just gathering information. I'd be unpleasantly surprised if that was in the TA, as that is certainly an abrogation of seniority. I believe UA has the same deal as us along with much more lenient freezes for changing categories.
06-04-2015, 08:29 PM
#5614
Da Hudge
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Originally Posted by TurbineDriver
Anybody have an idea when the TA will be released?
06-04-2015, 09:16 PM
#5615
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Position: window seat
Posts: 12,522
Originally Posted by pilotjockey
what i heard while checking in this afternoon
7/3/3/3
2 more dc but taken from profit sharing
loss of 40 hours of sick
verification at 80 per year
no more oe bumps
no change to vacation or cq pay
no per diem increase
aint no way this piece of crap can possibly be our next cba. definitely no
7/3/3/3
2 more dc but taken from profit sharing
loss of 40 hours of sick
verification at 80 per year
no more oe bumps
no change to vacation or cq pay
no per diem increase
aint no way this piece of crap can possibly be our next cba. definitely no
If true this will be a super easy no vote for me. The only thing to consider would be when to send in a card, and for which other agent.
I really don't think this could be right. We'll see though.
06-04-2015, 09:20 PM
#5616
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Posts: 129
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
We are always shocked at how small the raises are. Alpa will explain time value of money and tell us how this is the best offer we are going to get. There will be yelling in the crew rooms just like last time. It will pass just like it always does. It's the same thing everytime. I'm a no vote as always.
Note to ALPA: If the rumored rates are even close to true, don't insult us with a TVM sales pitch.
06-04-2015, 10:01 PM
#5618
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Position: B-767
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Originally Posted by gloopy
LOL xenophobic. Right. Fly ME3, for great social justice! 
06-05-2015, 01:05 AM
#5619
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Posts: 3,108
Millions of Americans quit their jobs each and every month for better paying jobs.
McDonalds, Wal-Mart and countless other raise wages just one dollar that is a 10% raise.
My friends here in Michigan that are property developers cannot find trades at any price to build homes for them.
Inflation is coming. Even if it is only 3% that coupled with reduced profit sharing makes 8/6/3/3 self funding.
Restoring value of vacation and training is just that. Restoration. Don't let them sell you that it is pay.
Never forget your defined benefit pension loss. The American pilots have something you will never have.
Apples to apples.
What's the rush? Why does it need to be sold?
Let it sell itself without the sales job.
We can and must hold our for better.
Once in a lifetime opportunity.
McDonalds, Wal-Mart and countless other raise wages just one dollar that is a 10% raise.
My friends here in Michigan that are property developers cannot find trades at any price to build homes for them.
Inflation is coming. Even if it is only 3% that coupled with reduced profit sharing makes 8/6/3/3 self funding.
Restoring value of vacation and training is just that. Restoration. Don't let them sell you that it is pay.
Never forget your defined benefit pension loss. The American pilots have something you will never have.
Apples to apples.
What's the rush? Why does it need to be sold?
Let it sell itself without the sales job.
We can and must hold our for better.
Once in a lifetime opportunity.
06-05-2015, 01:06 AM
#5620
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I have stated many times RA is wildly successful because he states goals. He measures goals. He demands results.
We don't have stated goals. Measureable goals. Shared goals.
And that is why we don't have a historic TA.
That is why we met management's timeline just like C2012 and fell far short of what we deserve in this once in a lifetime opportunity.
A small handful of insiders drove this package. They set goals and delivered us for less yet again.
The sales machine has been working overtime. They have one last goal. To get 50% plus 1.
We don't have stated goals. Measureable goals. Shared goals.
And that is why we don't have a historic TA.
That is why we met management's timeline just like C2012 and fell far short of what we deserve in this once in a lifetime opportunity.
A small handful of insiders drove this package. They set goals and delivered us for less yet again.
The sales machine has been working overtime. They have one last goal. To get 50% plus 1.
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