Details on Delta TA
05-31-2015 | 06:40 AM
#5211
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But the average bear can't tell the difference. We're talking millions of dollars here, paid for with just a few well-placed words. Congratulations. Management now knows your lowest number, and is certain that APC is filled with complete loons. The latest super premium update from C20 touches on this a bit.
Now that's irony.
05-31-2015 | 07:03 AM
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Secondly, the RJ rumor in the TA is one that is deeply concessionary by allowing even more DC-9-10 sized "large RJ's" which are the most viable part of that model right now. Every additional one they get breathes new life into the model by not only imroving the economics of it across the board, but also by allowing DCI to fly more pax with less pilots.
So even if you don't want to "pay for" reeling it in, you should still be against getting paid to breathe more life into it.
05-31-2015 | 07:04 AM
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Fight scope on the top and bottom end. It creates solidarity. We write letters to our government leaders to fend off the middle east carriers while we let our union take us down the primrose path of further scope creep that harms all Delta pilots. It's the definition of insanity.
05-31-2015 | 07:09 AM
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The scrutiny is welcome. Please show me the data and I will adjust it.
Payout Calculation PTIX Levels
% of PTIX Paid under Program $0 to $2.5 billion 15.0% in 2012 10.0% in 2013 and each year thereafter Over $2.5 billion 20.0%
This is from section 3 compensation I. profit sharing of the current PWA
Payout Calculation PTIX Levels
% of PTIX Paid under Program $0 to $2.5 billion 15.0% in 2012 10.0% in 2013 and each year thereafter Over $2.5 billion 20.0%
This is from section 3 compensation I. profit sharing of the current PWA
05-31-2015 | 07:09 AM
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All its going to take is for DL's EVP of West Coast Pilot Hiring Brad Tilden (who sometimes moonlights as the CEO of Alaskan Air Line) to change his mind and decide to play nice with DL and our domestic growth there will come to a screeching halt and likely reverse.
Time to lock it down and lock them out of ever growing to cancerous proportions in the DL network ever again (they can grow as much as they want on their own who cares).
05-31-2015 | 07:12 AM
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I am a bit confused by your post. If the forum rumor is to be believed that is where we are in negotiations. A 9% signing bonus 1 July and 9% more on the amendable date which compounds to about 18.8%. You want to reduce that to 18.3%??? Personally I would like to see a bit more but will need to see the entire package to decide.
05-31-2015 | 07:13 AM
#5217
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You have to delay negotiations for at least a year before the RJ cost model mirrors mainline more. DCI is un-fuel-hedged, and is paying almost $2 less per gallon. The savings of DCI is worth more than the cost of the entire mainline pwa. Furthermore, the customer service scores with the exception of gojet are the same as mainline, with Compass actual being ranked a superior product to mainline(JD powers).
The RJ fight is going to require the solidarity of the entire mainline and DCI group, to reel it in.
The RJ fight is going to require the solidarity of the entire mainline and DCI group, to reel it in.
05-31-2015 | 07:19 AM
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Not to mention all the over head associated with running separate companies. Just think of all the bonuses that have to paid out to all of those executives for keeping pilot costs low. I can't imagine how fielding not one, but several companies full of managers, vice presidents, board of directors, ETC... saves us money!
05-31-2015 | 07:25 AM
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The leaks/rumors/floaters don't always come from behind the doors of a closed session meeting. Some of them are like a "show bird" at the trap range. The clay target sails out, and now the other side knows a bit more about where to aim. Some of this stuff is pure garbage, but some of it is written to either prevent a democratic outcome, or to gain intelligence about the pilots' price point in MEMRAT.
But the average bear can't tell the difference. We're talking millions of dollars here, paid for with just a few well-placed words. Congratulations. Management now knows your lowest number, and is certain that APC is filled with complete loons. The latest super premium update from C20 touches on this a bit.
Now that's irony.
But the average bear can't tell the difference. We're talking millions of dollars here, paid for with just a few well-placed words. Congratulations. Management now knows your lowest number, and is certain that APC is filled with complete loons. The latest super premium update from C20 touches on this a bit.
Now that's irony.
Still not sure how guys getting up and arms about rj, greenslip, lca and pay issues is a negative. I just don't see that.
The only problem it probably presents is for the NC.
05-31-2015 | 07:25 AM
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I can only imagine what we will have to give up to prevent this.
Or worse, what we will "gain" to allow it.
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