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Old 06-13-2015 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by gopher3
But Jerry, how could that be....many of our leaders all graduated from the same highly esteemed institution. A highly respected institution with core values of "Integrity First, Service Before Self, and Excellence in All We Do."


Just to name a few....

MEC Chairman
Shadow MEC Chairman
Chairman of Negotiating Committee
SVP of Flight OPS
MEC treasurer
Several Yes voting Reps
That's not actually impressive at all.

Actually, that's telling.

Those that fly on that list, not many as you named basically all penguins, likely wear long sleeve shirts when they do.

That's a slogan you posted. Not how any of them conduct themselves, particularly now.
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Old 06-13-2015 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Bananie
Maybe because since bankruptcy, my pay has gone up about $90,000 per year and this TA will add another $50,000 or so. Meanwhile, the rest of the industry is simply riding on our shoulders. That's reason number one.
Show us how a single 8% hourly increase gets you $50,000.

Nonsense.

You salesmen want to pretend the profit sharing reduction is not happening.
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Old 06-13-2015 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by gopher3
But Jerry, how could that be....many of our leaders all graduated from the same highly esteemed institution. A highly respected institution with core values of "Integrity First, Service Before Self, and Excellence in All We Do."


Just to name a few....

MEC Chairman
Shadow MEC Chairman
Chairman of Negotiating Committee
SVP of Flight OPS
MEC treasurer
Several Yes voting Reps
Honor means nothing to them. Win at any cost.
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Old 06-13-2015 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
Show us how a single 8% hourly increase gets you $50,000.

Nonsense.

You salesmen want to pretend the profit sharing reduction is not happening.
I can't believe he is only looking at pay. Unbelievable
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Old 06-13-2015 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
There's nothing to email your rep about anymore. All you can do now is vote no. I'm not sure where you are based, but I emailed all my base reps numerous times when the rumors started coming out. I am 100 percent against this **** contract. Every single one of my reps voted for it. My emails didn't change a thing. I already stopped doing the survey after C2012, now I'm done emailing my reps.

As usual, DALPA ignored the survey completely did they're own thing. As usual, the company is trying to hold small airplanes over our head to get a forced yes. This thing will pass as usual. Disgusting really.
Same here. I hardly ever email my reps but I did when I heard the rumors and after the TA came out. All of them (LEC 44) ignored the input of what had to be overwhelming demand for them to vote No.

I did the survey this time around. What a waste of my time.
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Old 06-13-2015 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by dc10guy
I can't believe he is only looking at pay. Unbelievable
I'd venture 50% of voters only look at the pay rates at that's it.
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Old 06-13-2015 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Professor
The block hour conversion is also up gauging protection. Because all of our WB deliveries both real and notional are larger than the 767, EASK balance doesn’t help us keep jobs. As we up gauge the 767s on the JV routes, we add seats and keep 3/person crews. Keep in mind as well that using pilot block hours would hurt us because of the crew imbalances amongst the JV partners, as previously mentioned.
So does the TA use pilot block hours or aircraft block hours?
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Old 06-13-2015 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jiminmem
I'd venture 50% of voters only look at the pay rates at that's it.
I don't doubt it.
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Old 06-13-2015 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Bananie
That is only for FRMS categories, which right now means 777 only. Any other category is the same.
What other categories in the future will/could become FRMS?
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Old 06-13-2015 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
What about the Alter Ego provisions in Section one? Why did we agree that one human being, in this case Mike Donatelli, gets to approve the creation of 'Delta China' and 'Delta Atlantic' to fly Delta branded metal on Delta routes and Delta tickets, the profit going to Delta, and NO DELTA PILOTS at the controls!!! This is historic to be sure! As in our jobs are HISTORY!
The dismantling of delta airlines.

I don't care what the explanation is, this negates our top end scope...completely.

Completely!
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