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06-15-2015 | 08:31 AM
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Interesting you picked one of the smallest categories at Delta. What are the numbers for the larger categories? For example there are 180 airplanes in the 7ER category vs 31 for the A330.
06-15-2015 | 08:47 AM
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If You cannot attend the LEC meeting for recall give someone your proxy. Each pilot can carry and vote 3 proxies.
06-15-2015 | 09:09 AM
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06-15-2015 | 09:19 AM
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From: 737 Capt
Jumped on a 717 the other day as well being operated by an ATL crew. FO was new and kept is mouth shut but the capt loved the pay rates. When I brought up FO's giving up flying for OE trips he response was it didn't effect him. I did point out a chunk of the raise was self funded, the changes to our JV and that we are basically headed towards being a small airplane doestic airline so I hoped he really like the 717. That got his attention.......
06-15-2015 | 09:34 AM
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06-15-2015 | 09:35 AM
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Actually, neither is right. This is mainly about dividing the pilot group...which is the hallmark of a Ford & Harrison Union busting campaign. The B Scale is in there to make the E190 crews angry with the rest of the pilot group for voting YES. The pulling of FO trips is in there to make FO's angry with every other captain for voting YES. The JV scope concession is in there to make crews that fly Europe angry with everyone else as they watch their flying go to smaller and lower paying gauge.
It's a three way win to get three different groups angry with one another. Classic industrial psychological operations.
Carl
It's a three way win to get three different groups angry with one another. Classic industrial psychological operations.
Carl
06-15-2015 | 09:59 AM
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When you hear the "B" scale argument, I am pretty sure they are talking about a 100 seat airplane that pays $50 an hour less than the same 100 seat airplane we currently fly. BTW, it also pays less than a couple of the top end FO positions.
In ALPA's early days they were faced with how to increase pay on Jets. Due to their speed would automatically be more efficient. There was a formula that they came up with that included range, speed and passenger count. No all anyone focuses on is the passenger count.
It is true that the B717 carries 10 more people, but the new RJ's (we shouldn't really even call them that)... the new 100 seat jets have the same speed, the same approximate seat count, but fly farther.
Do you know why we removed the range qualifier in the DCI contract? not be cause it was redundant. It was because they want to fly routes like DTW-YVR, and ATL to Small markets in Mexico. The same routes that others already do with their connection jets.
In ALPA's early days they were faced with how to increase pay on Jets. Due to their speed would automatically be more efficient. There was a formula that they came up with that included range, speed and passenger count. No all anyone focuses on is the passenger count.
It is true that the B717 carries 10 more people, but the new RJ's (we shouldn't really even call them that)... the new 100 seat jets have the same speed, the same approximate seat count, but fly farther.
Do you know why we removed the range qualifier in the DCI contract? not be cause it was redundant. It was because they want to fly routes like DTW-YVR, and ATL to Small markets in Mexico. The same routes that others already do with their connection jets.
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