Details on Delta TA
06-14-2015, 06:06 PM
#8861
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Sick leave abuse is one of the most serious offenses you can have in your employment here. Its a legal issue. There are rules of evidence and procedure. Proven guilt is almost always a firing offense even for a first occasion. Pilots are NOT being terminated for it. You saying that there is abuse is your personal and anecdotal opinions. Nothing more.
DALPA can't fix sick leave abusers. If it's proven, you're done. DALPA can't help you.
Carl
DALPA can't fix sick leave abusers. If it's proven, you're done. DALPA can't help you.
Carl
06-14-2015, 06:08 PM
#8862
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06-14-2015, 06:08 PM
#8863
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
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Let's face it guys, the money is good. To us that weren't' here for C2K it's astounding. If that's all I cared about I'd be voting yes.
But when you peel back the onion you begin to cry. The money isn't growth money, it's replacement money. Every penny of increase in these pay rates comes from somewhere else in the contract. Profit sharing, scope losses, and productivity gains for the company plus the other employee groups profit sharing finances every last penny. In other words, every penny raise is taken directly from the back pocket of someone else. Is that what we are about?
But when you peel back the onion you begin to cry. The money isn't growth money, it's replacement money. Every penny of increase in these pay rates comes from somewhere else in the contract. Profit sharing, scope losses, and productivity gains for the company plus the other employee groups profit sharing finances every last penny. In other words, every penny raise is taken directly from the back pocket of someone else. Is that what we are about?
How incredibly disappointing when you start to peel back the layers. It's all about increasing productivity with less premiums while also giving the company more leeway in areas they wanted.
If slowplay would look around that FDX thread, they were at first upset with their progress, but they have attained some perspective that maybe their path isn't as bad as it seems with what we are giving up to get this quick TA. The UA comment he had was the only positive one, the rest were saying "no no no!" particularly with the LCA holdback thing (one of their biggest desires to fix).
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06-14-2015, 06:10 PM
#8864
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Let's face it guys, the money is good. To us that weren't' here for C2K it's astounding. If that's all I cared about I'd be voting yes.
But when you peel back the onion you begin to cry. The money isn't growth money, it's replacement money. Every penny of increase in these pay rates comes from somewhere else in the contract. Profit sharing, scope losses, and productivity gains for the company plus the other employee groups profit sharing finances every last penny. In other words, every penny raise is taken directly from the back pocket of someone else. Is that what we are about?
But when you peel back the onion you begin to cry. The money isn't growth money, it's replacement money. Every penny of increase in these pay rates comes from somewhere else in the contract. Profit sharing, scope losses, and productivity gains for the company plus the other employee groups profit sharing finances every last penny. In other words, every penny raise is taken directly from the back pocket of someone else. Is that what we are about?
Carl
06-14-2015, 06:22 PM
#8865
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,919
From the latest update on the JV grievance:
This settlement is not part of the Section 6 negotiations currently in progress. The settlement agreement also includes language that dictates the distribution of these monies.
We will provide the details of the actual distribution in a future update.
Turns out the future update was a TA which fixes the glitch. Five bucks we don't get anymore details prior to the vote. MEC/NC/Mgt is betting on a yes vote and then problem solved. Then, we can get the milk toast language out to the surfs.
This settlement is not part of the Section 6 negotiations currently in progress. The settlement agreement also includes language that dictates the distribution of these monies.
We will provide the details of the actual distribution in a future update.
Turns out the future update was a TA which fixes the glitch. Five bucks we don't get anymore details prior to the vote. MEC/NC/Mgt is betting on a yes vote and then problem solved. Then, we can get the milk toast language out to the surfs.
I'll answer this one.....They were banking on this TA overshadowing the settlement while C2015 changes the rules to put us back in compliance.
06-14-2015, 06:35 PM
#8867
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
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RA told us leading up to the JCBA that if things went smoothly we would be 2 to 3 years ahead of all the other airlines. Things did go smooth so shouldn't our contract be 2 to 3 years "better than everyone else? Stop comparing to where UA and American are now. According to RA We should be ahead of where they will be on there next contract
06-14-2015, 07:13 PM
#8868
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RA told us leading up to the JCBA that if things went smoothly we would be 2 to 3 years ahead of all the other airlines. Things did go smooth so shouldn't our contract be 2 to 3 years "better than everyone else? Stop comparing to where UA and American are now. According to RA We should be ahead of where they will be on there next contract
This is the MEC administration's doing. Richard simply signed off on it. I'm sure Richard and Campbell were stunned. Happily stunned.
Carl
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