Details on Delta TA
06-14-2015, 05:33 PM
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Sick leave abuse is one of the most serious offenses you can have in your employment here. Its a legal issue. There are rules of evidence and procedure. Proven guilt is almost always a firing offense even for a first occasion. Pilots are NOT being terminated for it. You saying that there is abuse is your personal and anecdotal opinions. Nothing more.
DALPA can't fix sick leave abusers. If it's proven, you're done. DALPA can't help you.
Carl
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06-14-2015, 05:34 PM
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Some other perspectives:
Having read the Delta TA highlights, I see no reason to vote no. New hire seat locks? 50/50 block hours ratio on code shares (current UAL contract), shrinking DCI overall but adding 25-70/76 seaters for 50 mainline 90/95 seaters? No deal killers there. I don't really understand the SL changes from reading the TA changes (but it says it won't affect 2/3 of the pilot group) and the profit sharing change is questionable....but the pay rates and the fact that it's early? Slam dunk in my opinion. The good times won't last forever. I'd lock it in. Good luck!
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06-14-2015, 05:39 PM
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06-14-2015, 05:52 PM
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He also glosses over top and bottom end scope job losses, a new B scale with the E190, and a huge loss to FO's with the removal of LCA trips. Other than that, Hazzard got it right.
Carl
06-14-2015, 06:02 PM
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Let's face it guys, the money is good. To us that weren't' here for C2K it's astounding. If that's all I cared about I'd be voting yes.
But when you peel back the onion you begin to cry. The money isn't growth money, it's replacement money. Every penny of increase in these pay rates comes from somewhere else in the contract. Profit sharing, scope losses, and productivity gains for the company plus the other employee groups profit sharing finances every last penny. In other words, every penny raise is taken directly from the back pocket of someone else. Is that what we are about?
But when you peel back the onion you begin to cry. The money isn't growth money, it's replacement money. Every penny of increase in these pay rates comes from somewhere else in the contract. Profit sharing, scope losses, and productivity gains for the company plus the other employee groups profit sharing finances every last penny. In other words, every penny raise is taken directly from the back pocket of someone else. Is that what we are about?
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