Details on Delta TA
06-11-2015 | 05:35 PM
#7851
looking for underboob
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: NYC 7ER LCA
It also includes United profit sharing into their rates but the other little gem is if when they calculate United hourly rate and the previous year we got 8% P.S. and they get 10% they will add only 8% to their hourly rate
06-11-2015 | 05:36 PM
#7852
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 2,605
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From: A320 Left seat
THats what most said in C2012 but it passed. How?? Well, Either the
#1) memrat voting is corrupt
or
#2) the MEC spin machine is so good it can sell 60%+ of 12500 pilots.
IF #2) then why cant they sell management on restoration plus inflation? Kind of strange, dont you think?
TEN
#1) memrat voting is corrupt
or
#2) the MEC spin machine is so good it can sell 60%+ of 12500 pilots.
IF #2) then why cant they sell management on restoration plus inflation? Kind of strange, dont you think?
TEN
Amazingly consistent.
06-11-2015 | 05:46 PM
#7853
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Joined: Oct 2012
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Woof. The downside protection from the previous verbiage was ignored by the company, so we're changing the way it's being measured to put them into compliance (without defined penalty for breaking the downside limit).
Don't get me wrong, I like that the tolerance and compliance window was narrowed, but most of the rest of what was written is just fluff.
I don't buy the explanation on pilot block hours other than it is simpler to measure. The whole augmentation difference and upgauging aircraft is just fluff.
Don't get me wrong, I like that the tolerance and compliance window was narrowed, but most of the rest of what was written is just fluff.
I don't buy the explanation on pilot block hours other than it is simpler to measure. The whole augmentation difference and upgauging aircraft is just fluff.
Food for thought. Section one has a AF/DAL JV and VS JV, a VA JV and at Asia Pacific Block Hour protection. Consider it layers of swiss cheese. The best protection on all of this is the VS JV which has an effective protection of 87% of our twin-isle WB flying. Look at this from a larger prospective. The AF JV is protected twice. The change is downside protection, and has no top end limiter. We are at 51.5% of BH right now. Note in the TA language that there is NO requirement to reduce that. None. This is not something that is mirrored in the agreement with AF. The pilot block hrs in the AF JV are about 55-56% add in the VS JV UK protections for another 5% of those block hrs and what do we see? the same amount of the pilot block hours in the current agreement that we see today. What do we see with 87% of our twin isle block hours protected in the VS JV? What was lost in the grand scheme of things?
We have a global airline that moves flying between multiple continents. The goal is to protect the jobs and make sure they don't flow elsewhere. The layered JV approach does that.
Soda Straws have a use, but commonly are not great to look thru.
06-11-2015 | 05:51 PM
#7855
Da Hudge
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,473
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From: Poodle Whisperer
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Food for thought. Section one has a AF/DAL JV and VS JV, a VA JV and at Asia Pacific Block Hour protection. Consider it layers of swiss cheese. The best protection on all of this is the VS JV which has an effective protection of 87% of our twin-isle WB flying. Look at this from a larger prospective. The AF JV is protected twice. The change is downside protection, and has no top end limiter. We are at 51.5% of BH right now. Note in the TA language that there is NO requirement to reduce that. None. This is not something that is mirrored in the agreement with AF. The pilot block hrs in the AF JV are about 55-56% add in the VS JV UK protections for another 5% of those block hrs and what do we see? the same amount of the pilot block hours in the current agreement that we see today. What do we see with 87% of our twin isle block hours protected in the VS JV? What was lost in the grand scheme of things?
We have a global airline that moves flying between multiple continents. The goal is to protect the jobs and make sure they don't flow elsewhere. The layered JV approach does that.
Soda Straws have a use, but commonly are not great to look thru.
Food for thought. Section one has a AF/DAL JV and VS JV, a VA JV and at Asia Pacific Block Hour protection. Consider it layers of swiss cheese. The best protection on all of this is the VS JV which has an effective protection of 87% of our twin-isle WB flying. Look at this from a larger prospective. The AF JV is protected twice. The change is downside protection, and has no top end limiter. We are at 51.5% of BH right now. Note in the TA language that there is NO requirement to reduce that. None. This is not something that is mirrored in the agreement with AF. The pilot block hrs in the AF JV are about 55-56% add in the VS JV UK protections for another 5% of those block hrs and what do we see? the same amount of the pilot block hours in the current agreement that we see today. What do we see with 87% of our twin isle block hours protected in the VS JV? What was lost in the grand scheme of things?
We have a global airline that moves flying between multiple continents. The goal is to protect the jobs and make sure they don't flow elsewhere. The layered JV approach does that.
Soda Straws have a use, but commonly are not great to look thru.
Nice jab with the soda straw comment.
06-11-2015 | 05:57 PM
#7857
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: May 2015
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From: Power top
06-11-2015 | 06:00 PM
#7858
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,044
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From: Lowest Pay I Could Find
06-11-2015 | 06:11 PM
#7859
Back on TDY
Joined: Apr 2008
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From: 747-400 Captain
06-11-2015 | 06:16 PM
#7860
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2008
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From: Kickin’ Back
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