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Old 06-14-2015 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by dalad
Sorry, I am in MAN and just finished eating at East East my favorite Indian restaurant, working on a giant Transatlantic fart to send your way. Going from EASKs to block hours is a huge concession, and agreeing to a pittance in the grievance settlement was the other. If this gets voted down, what is ALPAs plan to get the company INTO compliance under C2012? Since we are going to be parked by the NMB for eternity.
In my estimation, being able to grieve this every year we are parked is actually pretty big leverage and a reason the company will come beck to the table sooner rather than later. And if the company comes back into compliance fine. If they go back out of compliance, wouldn't that be a violation of the status quo? I truly don't see how we lose here.

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Old 06-14-2015 | 11:54 AM
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I am mounting a recall effort for lec 44, the mec chair and the nc (indirectly) because I believe they did not follow the direction of their constituents. Period. We will soon see if others agree.

I have the assistance of a north guy who was successful with a north recall.

Unfortunately, I am leaving the country for two weeks starting the 21st. If any local atl guy (for logistical reasons) can co-sponsor this effort, please pm me.

I feel it is imperative that this occurs prior to the close of the TA vote.

Thanks.

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Old 06-14-2015 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SharpestTool
Speaking of liars, who started the sick verification myth? Then who when knowing better continued to propagate the myth?

Are you going to propagate the myth now that the language is out? Might not be a good idea because if a sceptic decides to check the facts he may be a little taken back by the dishonesty.
No clue what you are talking about...you can read the TA language directly from the DALPA website. 14.F.2. clearly shows the ability to voluntarily verify has been lined out/removed.
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Old 06-14-2015 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dalad
Sorry, I am in MAN and just finished eating at East East my favorite Indian restaurant, working on a giant Transatlantic fart to send your (SlowPlay's) way. Going from EASKs to block hours is a huge concession, and agreeing to a pittance in the grievance settlement was the other.

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Old 06-14-2015 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
In my estimation, being able to grieve this every year we are parked is actually pretty big leverage and a reason the company will come beck to the table sooner rather than later. And if the company comes back into compliance fine. If they go back out of compliance, wouldn't that be a violation of the status quo? I truly don't see how we lose here.

Denny
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Old 06-14-2015 | 12:27 PM
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Clarification:

Medical Release Threshold is 24 work days missed in rolling 365 days or 56 missed day in rolling 1095 days.

That would be roughly 128 hours in a rolling year and 298 hours in a rolling 3 year period.
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Old 06-14-2015 | 12:31 PM
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Here is some sick leave language:

2. A medical release will be limited to a written authorization for release of medical information (release), provided the release is limited toto the DHS for:

1a. the specific sickness for which the pilot claimed sick leave, and
2b. the day(s) on which the pilot claimed sick leave and the consecutive day(s) off immediately preceding and succeeding the day(s) on which a pilot claimed sick leave, and.

3. If, following the review of information provided pursuant to a medical release, the DHS is not able to satisfactorily assess the medical basis for the use of sick leave, the release may be expanded to include a Company designated doctor or other health care professional(s) and the Director – Health Services and the Senior Vice- President of Flight Operations.

To me, number 3 gives the DHS waaaaaay too much discretion.

Then, what about the "consecutive days off before and after" garbage? If I'm not sick before or after, there will be no medical records and the company has no business delving into what I do or don't do before or after I'm sick. It's none of their business.

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Old 06-14-2015 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SharpestTool
Clarification:

Medical Release Threshold is 24 work days missed in rolling 365 days or 56 missed day in rolling 1095 days.

That would be roughly 128 hours in a rolling year and 298 hours in a rolling 3 year period.

That's medical release threshold not medical verification threshold. Not exactly sure what the difference is, it's pretty convoluted.
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Old 06-14-2015 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LivingTheDream
I am mounting a recall effort for lec 44, the mec chair and the nc (indirectly) because I believe they did not follow the direction of their constituents. Period. We will soon see if others agree.

I have the assistance of a north guy who was successful with a north recall.

Unfortunately, I am leaving the country for two weeks starting the 21st. If any local atl guy (for logistical reasons) can co-sponsor this effort, please pm me.

I feel it is imperative that this occurs prior to the close of the TA vote.

Thanks.
How do we do this with all the guys that voted for this pos.
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Old 06-14-2015 | 12:35 PM
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Who do you work for SayAlt?
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