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80ktsClamp 06-16-2015 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1907339)
On another subject, Tom Gilbeck started a thread about our scope changes. He's the committee chairman of scope compliance (or something). He laid out a case of considerable half truths and falsehoods about the TA language regarding scope. I responded in detail to each claim in his first paragraph. There was no response from him and now the entire thread was deleted.

Anybody know what's up with that?

Carl

Tom's constant behavior is just that. He posts something incredibly long winded, let's it remain up for about 15 to 20 minutes, then deletes it.

It's been so sad watching his fall from grace. :(

Carl Spackler 06-16-2015 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1907343)
Tom's constant behavior is just that. He posts something incredibly long winded, let's it remain up for about 15 to 20 minutes, then deletes it.

It's been so sad watching his fall from grace. :(

But there were other responses to his thread...including mine. Can someone delete an entire thread if they started it?

Carl

SayAlt 06-16-2015 07:25 PM

Wait...is that possible? For the OP to delete a thread once it's been replied to (even if it falls within the "delete" window which expires after 10-15 min)??

edit: Carl....you beat me to it.

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BobZ 06-16-2015 07:32 PM

SA...an inability to engage in critical listening....let alone critical thinking... is how a lot of folks end up with the short end of the stick.

those holding the other end of this stick are now....as they have for as long as I have been around....counting on those voting to not engage in either of those efforts.

80ktsClamp 06-16-2015 07:33 PM

I guess so. It no longer shows up on his post history. There's a string of deleted ones that you guys can't see anymore.

It follows his behavior pattern.

Professor 06-16-2015 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1907339)
On another subject, Tom Gilbeck started a thread about our scope changes. He's the committee chairman of scope compliance (or something). He laid out a case of considerable half truths and falsehoods about the TA language regarding scope. I responded in detail to each claim in his first paragraph. There was no response from him and now the entire thread was deleted.



Anybody know what's up with that?



Carl


Carl. I would like you to specifically address you calling me a liar about being someone else.

As well as a few others.

A mod has told you I am not shiznit. And yet we are pivoting away from your tirade against me and my veracity.

I would expect at the very least an apology.

80ktsClamp 06-16-2015 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Professor (Post 1907367)
Carl. I would like you to specifically address you calling me a liar about being someone else.

As well as a few others.

A mod has told you I am not shiznit. And yet we are pivoting away from your tirade against me and my veracity.

I would expect at the very least an apology.

To be fair, I cannot prove that you're not shiznit- I know the cast of characters that are doing the social media stuff, and I'm quite sure I know the identity but am not saying here in the open.

The whole "youre xxx" thing just takes it into the personal instead of actually debating, which is why I shut it down.

Professor 06-16-2015 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by MtEverest (Post 1907337)
Professor, this is an important question that I would like answered as well.

Using all the language, sections/subsections in the new contract (not just cherry picking the section you decide to site), is there any scenario where Delta or their third party provider (or anybody else that is not me or the doctor I use) will ask me to provide my medical records? Site this language from the TA.

Along with this answer please provide:

1. All scenarios where this can happen.

2. How far back they can go.

3. The likely and potential consequences for me not turning over my medical records?

Be specific. We will be revisiting this answer in the future should this invasive, overreaching new language become our new contract.

You have stated you are here to answer questions honestly to educate those trying to decide on this TA. You have stated you are getting paid by DALPA to answer these questions. I expect detailed and all encompassing answers. Please do not use lawyerly/Clinetonesque definitions. Deliver a complete answer. If you do not know, don't "guess" or say "I think". Go to those who purportedly know this language cold and who agreed to put it into the TA. Deliver it and let's not lose anything in translation. Thank You.

PS- I want my answer here and not at a roadshow where they dump a bunch of garbage info into the equation to confuse things....similar to what you have done here earlier.


I'll get back to you on it.

I'll ask the experts.

Professor 06-16-2015 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1907369)
To be fair, I cannot prove that you're not shiznit- I know the cast of characters that are doing the social media stuff, and I'm quite sure I know the identity but am not saying here in the open.


Fine.

Well I'm still not and can prove it. So can shiznit. Because I know him.

I want it very very clear that nobody from DALPA has lied about their identity contrary to Carl's accusations.

And I want Carl to admit as much.

gzsg 06-16-2015 07:42 PM

Why do we still have bankruptcy vacation? The whole TA is a massive disappointment, but they couldn't match Alaska?

Complete failures. Time for a new team.


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