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Is there a way to send every delta pilot the con letters from the various LECs and the ta facts link?

I don't think *.*@delta.com is appropriate and is spamming. Plus, I don't use that Email anyway.

Thoughts ?

Is there a database of Dal pilots that is open source?

I posted this on DALPA MEC Comm site...

We have a strong BATNA (Best Alternative to Negotiated Agreement), and we should pursue it. Our BATNA is to maintain our current contract and continue negotiating. Time is on our side. Our current contract has pay increases in section 3.B.4. that prevent the company from giving other employee groups a raise without giving us one. Why do other Delta employee groups reject a union? Apparently, the majority anticipate higher pay without one, and management needs to offer pay raises to non-union employees to continue that expectation. With 3.B.4. management cannot give them pay raises without also giving the pilots the same raise under our current contract.

Our current contract has better scope, sick leave and no LCA trip pull. All of these affect QOL and pay. Richard is using a power-based negotiating strategy, which requires power/authority over the other party with little or no trust or sharing of information. However, he doesn't have sufficient power to pull this off unless we just roll over.

Why all the secrecy? Because sharing information means giving up power. The company doesn't want us to know what their plans are with some of these concessions and that worries me. Wall Street has expectations. RA holds 822,660 shares of DAL stock worth over $33M ( Reasons for Richard Anderson's Shares Sale of Delta Air Lines, Inc. (NYSE:DAL)'s Stock - Octafinance ). The other executives are also compensated with DAL stock, which I believe is restricted to when they can sell. The folks who decide for the company have their own interests in this fight. I think over time Delta management will realize they have to pay us and get this deal behind them. The longer they wait, the worse Wall Street will react.

Don't see it over there on FB. Under what original post?

I tell all the guys that I fly with that on a 737 to 737 comparison SWA blows us out of the water on pay and they just stare at me like I am crazy.

In reply to Dave Frohman's post on June 20th.

Dave Frohman posted the CVG Captain's letter, and I replied to it in two posts. They're still there, but a lot of folks are posting that their negative comments are being deleted.

Maybe because you're not counting profit sharing . . . and they do?

So, you're saying Delta executives are compensated with stock? And buying back $5 billion will do what for them? Do the pilots know this? And the pilots only want a 8% pay raise? Best employees in the world!!

sadly they either know it and don't care, or they don't know it and just don't want to rock the boat. I think the need to want to feel like we are the best treated airline pilots in the industry has somehow clouded decision making. I look around and we are literally no different than our brethren at other airlines, with very minor exceptions. The difference is weve believed that our amicable relationship with management had intangible value. So I wonder if the pilots here still believe we have this wonderful relationship? Because a take it or leave it TA with a threat of not coming back to the negotiating table does not sound so amicable to me.

Sadly I agree. I'm probably in my last contract. 300 some seniority. It's a damn shame we can't just unite, demand some gains. Make this the best place for a professional pilot to work and provide his or her family a great life.