More Repression now from ATL Chief pilot
06-26-2015 | 12:36 PM
#12
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From: Captain
Wow.. I understand the reason for preventing campaigning in the lounge, but you are telling me you can't have a table set up, staffed by volunteers, some former Alpa volunteers, same clothes, passing out literature only if asked.... And that is frowned upon by the 44 reps and admin? What if it was a current P2P guy that happened to have a different take on the facts? I guess he would be kicked out as well....
Sure is a fine line there...
Sure is a fine line there...
06-26-2015 | 02:11 PM
#14
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From: Co pilot
Wow.. I understand the reason for preventing campaigning in the lounge, but you are telling me you can't have a table set up, staffed by volunteers, some former Alpa volunteers, same clothes, passing out literature only if asked.... And that is frowned upon by the 44 reps and admin? What if it was a current P2P guy that happened to have a different take on the facts? I guess he would be kicked out as well....
Sure is a fine line there...
Sure is a fine line there...
There is information EVERYWHERE. Pro, Con, from the union, not from the union, online, offline, etc. Y'all actually sound like a bunch of control freaks to me. But hey, whatever floats your boat.
06-26-2015 | 02:39 PM
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Have you been reading some of the stuff that is being said? I can only imagine what that chitchat place is like.
06-26-2015 | 02:47 PM
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Considering the situation, I think the majority of us have shown admirable restraint. I know I have been very conscious of where the line is drawn.
On the other hand, we do have a right to freedom of speech. It's that inconvenient constitutional thingy.
On the other hand, we do have a right to freedom of speech. It's that inconvenient constitutional thingy.
06-26-2015 | 03:04 PM
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The problem, which they didn't anticipate, is that this is a REALLY BAD TA and people/pilots are reacting accordingly.
I'm pushing 20+ years and never seen anything like this TA. When NWA was loosing hundreds of millions of dollars a year, the contract we negotiated in 2003-4 was better than this. I think it was a 3.5/4.5% raise with no real concessions.
IMO, in C2015, they overreached, and they weren't prepared for it.
It never helps when two parties negotiate for a group when both are removed from the daily realities the group deals with.
Maybe, they need to have line pilots negotiate the next TA.
06-26-2015 | 03:06 PM
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06-26-2015 | 03:06 PM
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True, but there are lines, and I am betting that some are being balanced on.
06-26-2015 | 03:13 PM
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Not Delta and not our union (Or, other union organizers.)
Our union is the one who SHOULD be protecting our speech rights. Jus tike they should be protecting our right to privacy when it comes to our medical records.
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