TA 2 Goals
07-11-2015, 04:59 AM
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TA 2 Goals
Who is more successful than our Delta executives?
Why?
THEY SET AND MEASURE GOALS
1) 19-0 MEC approval
Don't send us any deal you don't all approve of. Lock the door and don't come out without a unanimous deal.
2) A TA that needs no sell job.
3) A pro/con paper
4) A minimum of $200-$300 million in gains across the board per year.
The MEC knows where to spread the gains. They have our surveys.
I will say our vacation is pathetic. Vacation is key to quality of life and time with family. Alaska has a max of 143:30. The failed TA 122:30. FedEx 6 hours per day and a max of 216 hours.
4:15 needs to be the minimum.
Why?
THEY SET AND MEASURE GOALS
1) 19-0 MEC approval
Don't send us any deal you don't all approve of. Lock the door and don't come out without a unanimous deal.
2) A TA that needs no sell job.
3) A pro/con paper
4) A minimum of $200-$300 million in gains across the board per year.
The MEC knows where to spread the gains. They have our surveys.
I will say our vacation is pathetic. Vacation is key to quality of life and time with family. Alaska has a max of 143:30. The failed TA 122:30. FedEx 6 hours per day and a max of 216 hours.
4:15 needs to be the minimum.
07-11-2015, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
Who is more successful than our Delta executives?
Why?
THEY SET AND MEASURE GOALS
1) 19-0 MEC approval
Don't send us any deal you don't all approve of. Lock the door and don't come out without a unanimous deal.
2) A TA that needs no sell job.
3) A pro/con paper
4) A minimum of $200-$300 million in gains across the board per year.
The MEC knows where to spread the gains. They have our surveys.
I will say our vacation is pathetic. Vacation is key to quality of life and time with family. Alaska has a max of 143:30. The failed TA 122:30. FedEx 6 hours per day and a max of 216 hours.
4:15 needs to be the minimum.
Why?
THEY SET AND MEASURE GOALS
1) 19-0 MEC approval
Don't send us any deal you don't all approve of. Lock the door and don't come out without a unanimous deal.
2) A TA that needs no sell job.
3) A pro/con paper
4) A minimum of $200-$300 million in gains across the board per year.
The MEC knows where to spread the gains. They have our surveys.
I will say our vacation is pathetic. Vacation is key to quality of life and time with family. Alaska has a max of 143:30. The failed TA 122:30. FedEx 6 hours per day and a max of 216 hours.
4:15 needs to be the minimum.
Well #4 is apparently less than we had in TA 1, so there's a winner.
I don't want more vacation days. I want more $/day. In this job if you cannot bid around the days you need you are junior in a senior category.
1-3, Good luck wid dat. You gonna step up? I am sure there are gonna be some openings.
07-11-2015, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
Who is more successful than our Delta executives?
Why?
THEY SET AND MEASURE GOALS
1) 19-0 MEC approval
Don't send us any deal you don't all approve of. Lock the door and don't come out without a unanimous deal.
2) A TA that needs no sell job.
3) A pro/con paper
4) A minimum of $200-$300 million in gains across the board per year.
The MEC knows where to spread the gains. They have our surveys.
I will say our vacation is pathetic. Vacation is key to quality of life and time with family. Alaska has a max of 143:30. The failed TA 122:30. FedEx 6 hours per day and a max of 216 hours.
4:15 needs to be the minimum.
Why?
THEY SET AND MEASURE GOALS
1) 19-0 MEC approval
Don't send us any deal you don't all approve of. Lock the door and don't come out without a unanimous deal.
2) A TA that needs no sell job.
3) A pro/con paper
4) A minimum of $200-$300 million in gains across the board per year.
The MEC knows where to spread the gains. They have our surveys.
I will say our vacation is pathetic. Vacation is key to quality of life and time with family. Alaska has a max of 143:30. The failed TA 122:30. FedEx 6 hours per day and a max of 216 hours.
4:15 needs to be the minimum.
07-11-2015, 05:47 AM
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I think they meant 200 million above the ta1 amount. Also what would stop the union from going back to the table and fixing a couple issues then once ta2 is ratified signing LOA's giving concessions on sick leave, jv, etc?
07-11-2015, 05:51 AM
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I think sick leave, LCA bidding, and JV scope would be a good starting point on TA#2..I didn't talk to one FO that voted yes for this TA, so the LCA bidding change is something the company wont get during record profits.
07-11-2015, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
I don't want more vacation days. I want more $/day. In this job if you cannot bid around the days you need you are junior in a senior category.
This is one of many areas we ARE NOT industry leading. We used to get seven, (7) weeks of vacation. And what's up with this stupid :15 vac pay no/credit for bidding. Dumb. And if you are going to let me move four days of vac using APD rules, then give me four more days of vacation! Thats a no brainer! Idiotic TA. Very deceptive.
07-11-2015, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez
I don't want more vacation days. I want more $/day. In this job if you cannot bid around the days you need you are junior in a senior category.
What a stupid thing to say bender!!!
Yes, my family should continue to go without because after 17 years of right seating it (thanks to ALPA and rj's) I can finally hold junior captain. I will move up a number when you choke on your kool aid and nobody gives you the Heimlic Maneuver!!!
I don't want more vacation days. I want more $/day. In this job if you cannot bid around the days you need you are junior in a senior category.
What a stupid thing to say bender!!!
Yes, my family should continue to go without because after 17 years of right seating it (thanks to ALPA and rj's) I can finally hold junior captain. I will move up a number when you choke on your kool aid and nobody gives you the Heimlic Maneuver!!!
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