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Old 07-18-2015 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Trust me,
I think that ship has sailed.

But sailing is fun.
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Old 07-18-2015 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
There was a DFR lawsuit, but it was dismissed on a statute of limitations technicality. Otherwise it was a slam-dunk.

Originally Posted by sailingfun
...All the lawsuits failed. None were dropped for statue of limitations. They were all filed almost immediately after the money was distributed.
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Therein lies the reason that so many people avoid anonymous forums- There is zero accountability and no repercussions from writing wildly inaccurate posts.

One of those two posters is completely full of $hit. I have no knowledge of the lawsuit in question so I don't which writer it is.
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Old 07-18-2015 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by KnotSoFast
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One of those two posters is completely full of $hit. I have no knowledge of the lawsuit in question so I don't which writer it is.
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Read my post above. I quoted from the judge's ruling and even provided the case number.

I think we can now determine who is "completely full of $hit."
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Old 07-18-2015 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
Read my post above. I quoted from the judge's ruling and even provided the case number.

I think we can now determine who is "completely full of $hit."
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Thanks. Your case quote makes the determination quite easy. Sorry i missed it on the first run through. (I think I had forum fatigue!)
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Old 07-18-2015 | 12:36 PM
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To think withholding 75,0000 from one person only generates 10.00 dollars per pilot. Seriously, who would even thinks that is acceptable. The only thing accomplished is the harm caused the pilots on ltd. Where is the logic in that decision. It appears to me it was an emotion decision based on ones own interpretation of fairness.

The above is not to rehash old arguments. The above is to point out we have the same sell outs running our union and making decisions based on their interpretation of fairness. The prime example is LCA bidding and SL. In their eyes it's fair just like the withholding money from those on LTD.

The point is that the pilots want this group to resign or be removed for making decisions like this.
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Old 07-19-2015 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GenX
To think withholding 75,0000 from one person only generates 10.00 dollars per pilot. Seriously, who would even thinks that is acceptable. The only thing accomplished is the harm caused the pilots on ltd. Where is the logic in that decision. It appears to me it was an emotion decision based on ones own interpretation of fairness.

The above is not to rehash old arguments. The above is to point out we have the same sell outs running our union and making decisions based on their interpretation of fairness. The prime example is LCA bidding and SL. In their eyes it's fair just like the withholding money from those on LTD.

The point is that the pilots want this group to resign or be removed for making decisions like this.

Here is the actual court ruling. There was a DFR portion dismissed for not being timely under labor rules. The entire case was not thrown out and the court issued a ruling. The ruling explains the logic of the distribution method. Keep in mind that the pilot in question did not as far as I know ever return to work at Delta. Had the company not gone bankrupt after he became disabled there would have been no benefit. With the bankruptcy and the chosen distribution method he received a substantial amount of money above and beyond his disibility benefit which was untouched in the chapter 11 filing. The company wanted reductions in the disibility benefit but the union fought for and retained 100% of the the pre bankruptcy disibility plan. The claim money was specifically to reimburse pilots for the pay and benefit cuts post bankruptcy. There were no pay or benefit cuts for disabled pilots however they were still awarded 3 out of 4 silos.

http://crewroom.alpa.org/DesktopModu...2311&Tabid=452
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Old 07-19-2015 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Here is the actual court ruling. There was a DFR portion dismissed for not being timely under labor rules. The entire case was not thrown out and the court issued a ruling. The ruling explains the logic of the distribution method. Keep in mind that the pilot in question did not as far as I know ever return to work at Delta. Had the company not gone bankrupt after he became disabled there would have been no benefit. With the bankruptcy and the chosen distribution method he received a substantial amount of money above and beyond his disibility benefit which was untouched in the chapter 11 filing. The company wanted reductions in the disibility benefit but the union fought for and retained 100% of the the pre bankruptcy disibility plan. The claim money was specifically to reimburse pilots for the pay and benefit cuts post bankruptcy. There were no pay or benefit cuts for disabled pilots however they were still awarded 3 out of 4 silos.

http://crewroom.alpa.org/DesktopModu...2311&Tabid=452

Not true. He returned.
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Old 07-20-2015 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by TheManager
Not true. He returned.
Then he went back out again and has been out as far back as I can look which is AUG of 12.

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Old 07-20-2015 | 06:44 AM
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#49 on NBC/SIC list. Excellent guy
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Old 07-20-2015 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Then he went back out again and has been out as far back as I can look which is AUG of 12.
Where does the average line guy find that information?
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