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Old 07-18-2015 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Drank
I nominate Carl. He oozes leadership, intelligence, and integrity. He has had alpa's number from Day 1. We can see now how right he was about these jackals running dalpa. He's senior... but he still looks out for the youngsters. He's a world-class communicator.

We simply must make a change.
Appreciate the kind words Purp, but I'm old. We have so many younger guys that are really smart.

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Old 07-18-2015 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MtEverest
With the little bit I know about Carl, I'd vote for him in a heartbeat. As mentioned above, Carl is super senior, yet wants what's best for the entire pilot group, new hire to widebody captain.

I've been impressed with his depth of knowledge regarding ALPA history and contracts. I've heard some of the things he does outside of Delta that really impressed me as well. I'm glad we have a guy with his background and intellect fighting the good fight. Keep it up Carl! You've got my vote
Don't know about that. I just know BS when I see it.



Thanks for the kind words though.

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Old 07-18-2015 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
You got my vote Carl.
Yeah right. You just want me out of your basement.

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Old 07-18-2015 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Well, at least his oil painting is already done.

I much prefer this one back when I crossed the Deleware.





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Old 07-18-2015 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawaii50
Yep, well I wouldn't vote for DPA either so you all vote for whoever you want. I won't go into what I know or think about Carl. He's turned this board into his bully pulpit through shear volume of posts.
I've always thought our best chance is a very strong ALPA with as many pilot groups in it as possible. Look around. Who's done a better job? I think ALPA has done a great job in many areas to make this industry so much better. They've also navigated through the toughest times in airline history with sometimes mixed results. Overall they've done a lot for me and my career. One call to aeromedical is worth all the dues you've paid if you need it.
I know it's unpopular here but I also think our best chance to get a good contract now is to rally behind the guys we have and let them use the hammer we've given them. I really don't see the reason for all the hysteria. They gave us a chance to vote yes or no on an early deal. You want it? This is the best we could get. If not we'll go back and do it the usual way.
If it was a simple as that then they should have represented it that way and not put on the huge sales pitch and now the insults that are being thrown around. Total BS for a organization that is supposed to be professional and represent me as a dues paying member!!! Wake up and pull your head out of the sand. Please tell me when we have had this good of financial times to negotiate a contract in???? WHEN?? Concessions in this environment??? It's as if they were negotiating under the assumptions of hard times to me!
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Old 07-18-2015 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawaii50
I don't think they had the hammer until we just gave it to them. We have profit sharing way too large for the company taste which I continue to think is our best leverage but I'm sure when they over reached they thought whatever we can get into this TA will get a yes vote. They know differently now.
Profit sharing was a negotiated item that we got for the huge give backs to save the company. Now we just give it up because the company doesn't like something we negotiated in good faith. BULL CRAP!!!
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Old 07-18-2015 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I much prefer this one back when I crossed the Deleware.





Carl

Me too.

The henious, foul, rotting-meat stench of marxism/socialism surrounds the poster I put up. Mea culpa. It's far more in line with the current regime. This one is much better for you. Far more dignified.
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Old 07-18-2015 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JABDIP
Profit sharing was a negotiated item that we got for the huge give backs to save the company. Now we just give it up because the company doesn't like something we negotiated in good faith. BULL CRAP!!!
I've said I'm fine with status quo and a portion of, hopefully ever increasing, profit sharing. I'm also fine with monetizing a portion of it for the right price. What's your plan, be specific, on how to put a lot more money in our pockets?
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Old 07-18-2015 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawaii50
What's your plan, be specific, on how to put a lot more money in our pockets?

Mike, please read this and try to wrap your mind around it:

IT ISN'T JUST ABOUT THE MONEY!!

Reread ^^^that^^^ again.

Now, what part of that incredibly complex sentence are you having such a hard time understanding??

Take all the concessions out of TA1 and it would've passed by 80%. CLEARLY IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE MONEY!!

Geez.
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Old 07-18-2015 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SayAlt
Mike, please read this and try to wrap your mind around it:

IT ISN'T JUST ABOUT THE MONEY!!

Reread ^^^that^^^ again.

Now, what part of that incredibly complex sentence are you having such a hard time understanding??

Take all the concessions out of TA1 and it would've passed by 80%. CLEARLY IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE MONEY!!

Geez.
Hey weird dude that doesn't work here (who I have a feeling is typing from Carl's basement),

Where did I mention concessions? I said I was willing to monetize a portion of profit sharing for the right price or keep status quo and collect my profit sharing as is.

Since you seem so intent on inserting yourself in our discussion and making accusations how about a little background on you? I'm an LA ER guy.
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