JV settlement email
08-03-2015 | 01:41 PM
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The union forgave the company for being out of compliance for 2013 and 2014. Everything before 31 March 2015 was forgiven. So the three year measurement window just started again. Read the JV settlement email that the union sent out. I copied the paragraph in question for the first post of this thread.
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08-03-2015 | 02:08 PM
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The union forgave the company for being out of compliance for 2013 and 2014. Everything before 31 March 2015 was forgiven. So the three year measurement window just started again. Read the JV settlement email that the union sent out. I copied the paragraph in question for the first post of this thread.
Again, it really is preferable to ask questions and let your Reps refer the question to Contract Admin for resolution to your satisfaction.
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08-03-2015 | 02:15 PM
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The contract specifies a rolling three year measure. So, by my reading years April 13 to 14 & 14 are 48.5% making the company compliant in exchange for $30,000,000. Then, measures for the remainder of 2015 are whatever they will be.The JV portion of the Scope Analysis briefing in August will have graphs which might help you to visualize the math & metrics on compliance.
Again, it really is preferable to ask questions and let your Reps refer the question to Contract Admin for resolution to your satisfaction.
Again, it really is preferable to ask questions and let your Reps refer the question to Contract Admin for resolution to your satisfaction.
08-03-2015 | 02:25 PM
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The company paid for the bad years, which will now be treated as good years for the purpose of the rolling window. My gut feel is a cool 30 mil bought them another 4 years of non-compliance.
08-03-2015 | 02:37 PM
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1/1/2011 747 A $186.46
1/1/2018 E190 A $200.14
Yes, seven years is a difference and cost of living has increased, but the 747 is a heck of a lot more airplane.
My concerns are more in line with Delta pilots doing Delta flying. Scope has to be engineered for worst case scenarios and in a worst case, those E190's would be far preferable to furlough.
1/1/2018 E190 A $200.14
Yes, seven years is a difference and cost of living has increased, but the 747 is a heck of a lot more airplane.
My concerns are more in line with Delta pilots doing Delta flying. Scope has to be engineered for worst case scenarios and in a worst case, those E190's would be far preferable to furlough.
And why would we compare anything to post-bankruptcy pay rates?
E190s sure would be preferable to furlough (although what you're really saying is that they'd be preferable to furlough for you... the pilots flying those at the time of bankruptcy of course would be furloughed).
But we have no say as to whether DAL buys airplanes. If they're good for business under the proposed TA, they're good for business under C2012. For goodness sakes, they're actually even better for business under C2012 now that the company doesn't have to pay that $1.1B more in pilot costs... oh nevermind.
Though if the E190 order was indeed cancelled because there is no pay scale for them, are we also canceling the A350 order?
08-03-2015 | 02:39 PM
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That's what I think. According to that other guy we can still grieve it. I guess we would get 10 mil next year. And 2015 would then be forgiven. So every year we will get ten mil and they will forgive every year. I hope I am wrong because this is stupid.
08-03-2015 | 02:45 PM
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As the letter pointed out and backed up with hard numbers we are talking about 20 crews a year. The company is now expected to be in compliance for 2016 so any award for that year may be moot.
08-03-2015 | 02:49 PM
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08-03-2015 | 03:20 PM
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Compliance up to 31 March 2015 was bought. We are in year three of a three year measure from 31 March 2013 to 31 March 2016 now. From 31 March 2013 to 31 March 2015, 48.5% goes in the 3 year rolling equation. From 31 March this year to 31 March 2016 the data will be whatever it will be. If out of compliance, then there is a cure period from 31 March 2016 to 31 March 2017. If in violation, a grievance could be filed 1 April 2017.
08-03-2015 | 03:26 PM
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