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10-26-2015 | 11:38 AM
#122
Racketeer
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 13,327
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From: N60.4858 W149.9327
BECAUSE...nobody ever responds to what I actually write they post all this crap that I never typed and try to lecture me on restoration. I want restoration like everyone else. That is a nebulous goal is all I am saying. We never say what we actually want...and surprise, we never get it either. All I am saying is that yelling about restoration without a logical plan to get it is simply that yelling. No one here has mentioned any kind of a good plan and ALPA (is it okay with you to capitalize ALPA)? Certainly didn't have one. John Malone likely will have a good plan, we will see.
Or if you don't like that word. Parity with other employees relative to their pay now and before bankruptcy.
10-26-2015 | 02:55 PM
#124
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 391
Likes: 1
From: Utah Chapter
Just curious, are these the items you feel are so onerous on the medical records issue?
A pilot who is required to verify his sickness under Section 14 F. 4. may be required to provide the Company with a written authorization for release of medical information (release), provided the release is limited to: 1. the specific sickness for which the pilot claimed sick leave, 2. the day(s) on which the pilot claimed sick leave and the consecutive day(s) off immediately preceding and succeeding the day(s) on which a pilot claimed sick leave, and 3. a Company designated doctor or other health care professional(s) and the Director – Health Services and the Senior Vice-President of Flight Operations.
Regardless of whether a pilot has a current First Class Medical Certificate, the Director – Health Services (DHS) may review the medical records of a pilot: a. who receives an FAA special issuance medical certificate, b. who seeks to return to flight duty after being absent for at least four months for medical reasons, or c. when there is reason to believe he may not meet the physical standards. 2. A pilot undergoing medical review under this section will give the DHS access to all medical records requested by the DHS. 3. The DHS may require a medical evaluation of a pilot holding a valid First Class Medical Certificate. This medical evaluation will be limited to the nature of the First Class Medical physical standard(s) in question. 4. The DHS and the ALPA Aeromedical Advisor will confer on the choice of the Company Medical Examiner (CME) prior to sending the pilot for evaluation, if the pilot releases the pertinent information to the ALPA Aeromedical Advisor. 5. The DHS will select the CME. 6. Medical information provided by the DHS to the CME will be limited to medically relevant information provided by doctors and treating facilities.
A pilot who is required to verify his sickness under Section 14 F. 4. may be required to provide the Company with a written authorization for release of medical information (release), provided the release is limited to: 1. the specific sickness for which the pilot claimed sick leave, 2. the day(s) on which the pilot claimed sick leave and the consecutive day(s) off immediately preceding and succeeding the day(s) on which a pilot claimed sick leave, and 3. a Company designated doctor or other health care professional(s) and the Director – Health Services and the Senior Vice-President of Flight Operations.
Regardless of whether a pilot has a current First Class Medical Certificate, the Director – Health Services (DHS) may review the medical records of a pilot: a. who receives an FAA special issuance medical certificate, b. who seeks to return to flight duty after being absent for at least four months for medical reasons, or c. when there is reason to believe he may not meet the physical standards. 2. A pilot undergoing medical review under this section will give the DHS access to all medical records requested by the DHS. 3. The DHS may require a medical evaluation of a pilot holding a valid First Class Medical Certificate. This medical evaluation will be limited to the nature of the First Class Medical physical standard(s) in question. 4. The DHS and the ALPA Aeromedical Advisor will confer on the choice of the Company Medical Examiner (CME) prior to sending the pilot for evaluation, if the pilot releases the pertinent information to the ALPA Aeromedical Advisor. 5. The DHS will select the CME. 6. Medical information provided by the DHS to the CME will be limited to medically relevant information provided by doctors and treating facilities.
Commendable on the trap setup. If there was a forum participation trophy, I'd recommend you for it. .
10-26-2015 | 03:37 PM
#125
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 20,877
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Umm...pretty sure that's already in the contract. The TA lowered the effective threshold to require such actions, and fiddled with the language to apply pressure on the pilots.
Commendable on the trap setup. If there was a forum participation trophy, I'd recommend you for it. .
Commendable on the trap setup. If there was a forum participation trophy, I'd recommend you for it. .
A The DHS or his designee may request further information from a pilot who is required to verifyregarding his sickness or may require a pilot to provide a medical release when:
a. b.
a pilot’s sick leave exceeds a medical release threshold, or
verification is required, or has been sought under Section 14 F. 4. may be required to provide, and the Company withDHS is not able to assess the medical basis for the use of sick leave.
Note: Prior to requiring a medical release, the pilot must first be provided with an additional opportunity to submit verification that is acceptable to the DHS.
A medical release will be limited to a written authorization for release of medical information (release), provided the release is limited toto the DHS for:
the specific sickness for which the pilot claimed sick leave, and
the day(s) on which the pilot claimed sick leave and the consecutive day(s) off
immediately preceding and succeeding the day(s) on which a pilot claimed sick leave,
and.
If, following the review of information provided pursuant to a medical release, the DHS is not able to satisfactorily assess the medical basis for the use of sick leave, the release may be expanded to include a Company designated doctor or other health care professional(s) and the Director – Health Services and the Senior Vice- President of Flight Operations.
All in all does not seem nearly as evil as all the forum posts on the subject not to mention that the company has consistently attempted to get pilots off not on disability. It's much cheaper for them to keep you working.
10-26-2015 | 03:48 PM
#126
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 228
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From: 737A
What actually happened is the second paragraph that I posted was eliminated in the TA. The first paragraph was modified to essentially combine the two.
A The DHS or his designee may request further information from a pilot who is required to verifyregarding his sickness or may require a pilot to provide a medical release when:
a. b.
a pilot’s sick leave exceeds a medical release threshold, or
verification is required, or has been sought under Section 14 F. 4. may be required to provide, and the Company withDHS is not able to assess the medical basis for the use of sick leave.
Note: Prior to requiring a medical release, the pilot must first be provided with an additional opportunity to submit verification that is acceptable to the DHS.
A medical release will be limited to a written authorization for release of medical information (release), provided the release is limited toto the DHS for:
the specific sickness for which the pilot claimed sick leave, and
the day(s) on which the pilot claimed sick leave and the consecutive day(s) off
immediately preceding and succeeding the day(s) on which a pilot claimed sick leave,
and.
If, following the review of information provided pursuant to a medical release, the DHS is not able to satisfactorily assess the medical basis for the use of sick leave, the release may be expanded to include a Company designated doctor or other health care professional(s) and the Director – Health Services and the Senior Vice- President of Flight Operations.
A The DHS or his designee may request further information from a pilot who is required to verifyregarding his sickness or may require a pilot to provide a medical release when:
a. b.
a pilot’s sick leave exceeds a medical release threshold, or
verification is required, or has been sought under Section 14 F. 4. may be required to provide, and the Company withDHS is not able to assess the medical basis for the use of sick leave.
Note: Prior to requiring a medical release, the pilot must first be provided with an additional opportunity to submit verification that is acceptable to the DHS.
A medical release will be limited to a written authorization for release of medical information (release), provided the release is limited toto the DHS for:
the specific sickness for which the pilot claimed sick leave, and
the day(s) on which the pilot claimed sick leave and the consecutive day(s) off
immediately preceding and succeeding the day(s) on which a pilot claimed sick leave,
and.
If, following the review of information provided pursuant to a medical release, the DHS is not able to satisfactorily assess the medical basis for the use of sick leave, the release may be expanded to include a Company designated doctor or other health care professional(s) and the Director – Health Services and the Senior Vice- President of Flight Operations.
10-26-2015 | 03:57 PM
#127
Racketeer
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 13,327
Likes: 818
From: N60.4858 W149.9327
What actually happened is the second paragraph that I posted was eliminated in the TA. The first paragraph was modified to essentially combine the two.
A The DHS or his designee may request further information from a pilot who is required to verifyregarding his sickness or may require a pilot to provide a medical release when:
a. b.
a pilot’s sick leave exceeds a medical release threshold, or
verification is required, or has been sought under Section 14 F. 4. may be required to provide, and the Company withDHS is not able to assess the medical basis for the use of sick leave.
Note: Prior to requiring a medical release, the pilot must first be provided with an additional opportunity to submit verification that is acceptable to the DHS.
A medical release will be limited to a written authorization for release of medical information (release), provided the release is limited toto the DHS for:
the specific sickness for which the pilot claimed sick leave, and
the day(s) on which the pilot claimed sick leave and the consecutive day(s) off
immediately preceding and succeeding the day(s) on which a pilot claimed sick leave,
and.
If, following the review of information provided pursuant to a medical release, the DHS is not able to satisfactorily assess the medical basis for the use of sick leave, the release may be expanded to include a Company designated doctor or other health care professional(s) and the Director – Health Services and the Senior Vice- President of Flight Operations.
All in all does not seem nearly as evil as all the forum posts on the subject not to mention that the company has consistently attempted to get pilots off not on disability. It's much cheaper for them to keep you working.
A The DHS or his designee may request further information from a pilot who is required to verifyregarding his sickness or may require a pilot to provide a medical release when:
a. b.
a pilot’s sick leave exceeds a medical release threshold, or
verification is required, or has been sought under Section 14 F. 4. may be required to provide, and the Company withDHS is not able to assess the medical basis for the use of sick leave.
Note: Prior to requiring a medical release, the pilot must first be provided with an additional opportunity to submit verification that is acceptable to the DHS.
A medical release will be limited to a written authorization for release of medical information (release), provided the release is limited toto the DHS for:
the specific sickness for which the pilot claimed sick leave, and
the day(s) on which the pilot claimed sick leave and the consecutive day(s) off
immediately preceding and succeeding the day(s) on which a pilot claimed sick leave,
and.
If, following the review of information provided pursuant to a medical release, the DHS is not able to satisfactorily assess the medical basis for the use of sick leave, the release may be expanded to include a Company designated doctor or other health care professional(s) and the Director – Health Services and the Senior Vice- President of Flight Operations.
All in all does not seem nearly as evil as all the forum posts on the subject not to mention that the company has consistently attempted to get pilots off not on disability. It's much cheaper for them to keep you working.
