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11-04-2015 | 01:41 PM
#271
The Brown Dot +1
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,775
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From: 777B
Clearly, in the military there are stupid rules that define stupidity. However, you see some of that carried over to the for profit sector as well. Disco belts always lost you cool points whenever they were present. But, anytime you're on a ramp overseas, you're supposed to wear a reflective vest, day or night...in Japan, there's a guy posted at every plane to check that you're wearing it. How's that for your life defining work.
Everyone gets a vote. It's up to them to make it educated.
11-04-2015 | 02:36 PM
#272
Line Holder
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 637
Likes: 15
From: Stretch DC-9 Gear Slinger
Unfortunately nowadays, most of the people in leadership positions in the Air Force are there because they worked harder at brown nosing than everybody else. The Guard and the reserves are a lot better, but even in the Guard they sometimes promote the yes man over the better officer. The really good leaders get fed up and leave. I have not seen this issue with the leadership at Delta but it seems to happen with ALPA to a lesser scale.
11-04-2015 | 02:52 PM
#273
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 181
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I think the point may be that we are pilots.
Those that had "leadership" jobs at their former employment can tend to think that they are too good to just be a pilot. Not all, just some.
We are all civilian pilots now.
11-04-2015 | 04:00 PM
#274
veut gagner à la loterie
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 23,286
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From: Light Chop
11-04-2015 | 04:37 PM
#275
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 2,960
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From: Power top
I apologize if I jumped to a conclusion.
11-04-2015 | 06:47 PM
#277
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 242
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From: Works too much
Unfortunately nowadays, most of the people in leadership positions in the Air Force are there because they worked harder at brown nosing than everybody else. The Guard and the reserves are a lot better, but even in the Guard they sometimes promote the yes man over the better officer. The really good leaders get fed up and leave. I have not seen this issue with the leadership at Delta but it seems to happen with ALPA to a lesser scale.
Last edited by Indy; 11-04-2015 at 07:00 PM.
11-05-2015 | 06:27 AM
#278
Banned
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 757
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From: systems analyst
That's funny...I thought my career was finished at least a dozen times after speaking truth to generals or WG/CCs! I later learned that some that I argued with in public were the very ones who pushed my career much farther than I ever intended and put me into multiple leadership positions. They craved the feedback and dialectic nobody else was ballsey enough to give. You just had to make dang sure you were right before you opened your mouth.
11-05-2015 | 07:14 AM
#279
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 342
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That's funny...I thought my career was finished at least a dozen times after speaking truth to generals or WG/CCs! I later learned that some that I argued with in public were the very ones who pushed my career much than I ever intended and put me into multiple leadership positions. They craved the feedback and dialectic nobody else was ballsey enough to give. You just had to make dang sure you were right before you opened your mouth.
In Message to Wing Commanders, Welsh Declares "Zero Privacy" Doctrine For All Airmen - John Q. Public and SAPR meetings/briefings galore because apparently we're all guilty of sexual harassment.
But back to the TA! Life is definitely better on this side of the fence.
11-05-2015 | 09:22 AM
#280
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Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 38
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Not ONE pilot has been able to explain what they EXPECT to get out of a new and improved deal with DAL. Just a LOT of bad ass chest thumping.What raises? (%) What retirement? (%) What Profit Sharing? (%) What sick leave (I hope to keep the C12 setup) and just as important, when do you expect this to occur and what are the odds of this happening?We also need a plan to make this happen, just WANTING something is not a plan...
Last edited by AndersonSH8914; 11-05-2015 at 09:34 AM.
