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Old 02-10-2016 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
I figured out a way for those graphs not to bother me:

1- Don't read them
2- Play golf in the 74F weather we had here today in Vegas.

As long as you were not on sick leave at the time.....
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Old 02-19-2016 | 02:24 PM
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OK.... I did not read any of this thread....but had a response to sick leave.

I just had SURGERY....by a SURGEON....in one of those...what are they called....oh yeah, OPERATING ROOMS.

I had an INCISION....with those little STITCHES.....cuz I had an INCISION.

I filed the childish Delduh form....and STILL got a call from the CPO.

The CPO had an attitude about it, too.

I am nowhere near any sick limits, verification windows, etc.

GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT.

I HAVE THE LANYARD.
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Old 02-19-2016 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Elmer Fudd
OK.... I did not read any of this thread....but had a response to sick leave.

I just had SURGERY....by a SURGEON....in one of those...what are they called....oh yeah, OPERATING ROOMS.

I had an INCISION....with those little STITCHES.....cuz I had an INCISION.

I filed the childish Delduh form....and STILL got a call from the CPO.

The CPO had an attitude about it, too.

I am nowhere near any sick limits, verification windows, etc.

GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT.

I HAVE THE LANYARD.
This is what sickens me about our Chief Pilots. Anyone who aspires to be a CP should do so to advocate for the line pilots, not harass them. I get it that they have to be the bad guy when it comes to enforcing standards and dishing out discipline. But CP's under no circumstances should be harassing pilots over the "validity" of a Doctors note. This is unbelievable. These are just really bad human beings were dealing with. And theyre supposed to have been cut from the same cloth as the rest of line pilots. I'm embarrassed by them. Very sad.
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Old 02-20-2016 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ghilis101
This is what sickens me about our Chief Pilots. Anyone who aspires to be a CP should do so to advocate for the line pilots, not harass them. I get it that they have to be the bad guy when it comes to enforcing standards and dishing out discipline. But CP's under no circumstances should be harassing pilots over the "validity" of a Doctors note. This is unbelievable. These are just really bad human beings were dealing with. And theyre supposed to have been cut from the same cloth as the rest of line pilots. I'm embarrassed by them. Very sad.
The person that is applying to be chief pilot would never get hired if their loyalty was for the pilots. Think about it, who hires them?

TEN
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Old 02-20-2016 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone
The person that is applying to be chief pilot would never get hired if their loyalty was for the pilots. Think about it, who hires them?

TEN
We have some pretty good CP's in NYC. I've met a former DTW CPO that flies out of NYC now that apparently was pretty awesome also. We did have one guy that raised everyone's blood pressure but he is back to the line.
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Old 02-20-2016 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
We have some pretty good CP's in NYC. I've met a former DTW CPO that flies out of NYC now that apparently was pretty awesome also. We did have one guy that raised everyone's blood pressure but he is back to the line.
When is SD going to fly the line?

Has he EVER flown the line?
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Old 02-22-2016 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ghilis101
This is what sickens me about our Chief Pilots. Anyone who aspires to be a CP should do so to advocate for the line pilots, not harass them. I get it that they have to be the bad guy when it comes to enforcing standards and dishing out discipline. But CP's under no circumstances should be harassing pilots over the "validity" of a Doctors note. This is unbelievable. These are just really bad human beings were dealing with. And theyre supposed to have been cut from the same cloth as the rest of line pilots. I'm embarrassed by them. Very sad.
G-

It's very simple.

God forbid an employee would have to have a "medical procedure". Like I could fake a surgery....right?

It has to do with.....PRODUCTIVITY.

Delduh didn't hire soon enough, and now they think their staffing mistake is our problem. Summer is coming!!!!!! Think again.

I fly airplanes....other people that make more than I do figure out staffing.

DON'T FLY SICK.

I didn't like being "guilty until proven innocent".

In a few months I'll have 40 years of flying under my belt. This petty bullschidt is just that....petty bullschidt.
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Old 02-24-2016 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Elmer Fudd
G-

It's very simple.

God forbid an employee would have to have a "medical procedure". Like I could fake a surgery....right?

It has to do with.....PRODUCTIVITY.

Delduh didn't hire soon enough, and now they think their staffing mistake is our problem. Summer is coming!!!!!! Think again.

I fly airplanes....other people that make more than I do figure out staffing.

DON'T FLY SICK.

I didn't like being "guilty until proven innocent".

In a few months I'll have 40 years of flying under my belt. This petty bullschidt is just that....petty bullschidt.


I had surgery, by a surgeon, in an operating room.

I had incisions with stitches.

I filed the Delta form including no estimate of a return to work date.

I got called by the CPO because the 15 consecutive day trigger had occurred and the CPO was notified.

The CPO asked if I was OK.

The CPO asked how I was doing.

The CPO asked if I needed any assistance.

The CPO asked if I was aware of my sick leave balance and did I have any questions about the process of going on disability.

The CPO acknowledged that my verification was filed and accepted and reminded me to call in well when I was fully able to return to duty.

The CPO was pleasant, very courteous and had a very positive, non-judgmental attitude.

You should call your Regional Director and discuss the problem you had with the attitude of your CPO.
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Old 02-24-2016 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Chuck Essential
I had surgery, by a surgeon, in an operating room.

I had incisions with stitches.

I filed the Delta form including no estimate of a return to work date.

I got called by the CPO because the 15 consecutive day trigger had occurred and the CPO was notified.

The CPO asked if I was OK.

The CPO asked how I was doing.

The CPO asked if I needed any assistance.

The CPO asked if I was aware of my sick leave balance and did I have any questions about the process of going on disability.

The CPO acknowledged that my verification was filed and accepted and reminded me to call in well when I was fully able to return to duty.

The CPO was pleasant, very courteous and had a very positive, non-judgmental attitude.

You should call your Regional Director and discuss the problem you had with the attitude of your CPO.
Do you really think it would help?

It's all about THE NUMBERS and PRODUCTIVITY.

I talked to my LEC CA Rep & he said that the Regional Director most likely directed the CP to call. He knows both of them.

I could care less......I had a gash that was held together with stitches, after SURGERY.....and I wasn't gonna fly an airplane.

If they have a frickin' sick (productivity) problem, they can fix it & stay off my a$$. Go after the actual abusers.
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Old 02-24-2016 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Elmer Fudd
G-

It's very simple.

God forbid an employee would have to have a "medical procedure". Like I could fake a surgery....right?

It has to do with.....PRODUCTIVITY.

Delduh didn't hire soon enough, and now they think their staffing mistake is our problem. Summer is coming!!!!!! Think again.

I fly airplanes....other people that make more than I do figure out staffing.

DON'T FLY SICK.

I didn't like being "guilty until proven innocent".

In a few months I'll have 40 years of flying under my belt. This petty bullschidt is just that....petty bullschidt.

Bold.... the sick leave nonsense is a playbook from regional airline management. If we don't fight this/nip it, we will be rick rolled into other nonsense. My two cents.
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