Delta to get EMB-190's
12-19-2015 | 01:02 PM
#181
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Ok, I'll agree. Any group the size of the Delta pilots 12,000+ (or the profession as a whole 70,000ish) is bound to have a hand full of DBs that feel it's their right and duty to rant. I haven't seen it impact the operation. Maybe an excuse not to eat dinner but that's it. The internet anonymity emboldens a few but I guess I'm just good at ignoring it. They are easy to spot and only embarrass themselves.
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12-19-2015 | 01:08 PM
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Ok, I'll agree. Any group the size of Delta the pilots 12,000+ or the profession as a whole 70,000ish I guess is bound to have a hand full of DBs that feel the right to rant. I haven't seen it impact the operation. Maybe an excuse not to eat dinner but that's it. The internet anonymity emboldens a few but I guess I'm just good at ignoring it.
But on the whole, the specific stuff I mention (that actually filterd down) ISN'T common, but it does happen. Maybe 1-2 a month system wide that are simply inter-pilot and NOT pilot to gate agent problems, etc.
Although there have been times where that average spiked, weirdly enough it can coincide with certain things. Like, I don't know, a BK, a merger, JUST talk of a merger, an SLI, a TA
12-19-2015 | 01:33 PM
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Flame on. I can handle the heat. Law of averages says even gate agents, ramp agents, other airline pilots, doctors, lawyers and even airline managers can be DBs on the internet. (or in real life) 
I still think this group is professional enough to get the job done regardless of the diversity. If you are on the jumpseat, just suck it up and get where you are going. It is still basically hitch hiking no matter how routine it may be, and yes I have been a commuter in both senses of the word. I flew for a regional and have lived out of base.
Been there. YMMV
I still think this group is professional enough to get the job done regardless of the diversity. If you are on the jumpseat, just suck it up and get where you are going. It is still basically hitch hiking no matter how routine it may be, and yes I have been a commuter in both senses of the word. I flew for a regional and have lived out of base.
Been there. YMMV
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12-19-2015 | 02:49 PM
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It's the extraneous douchebaggery that was being referenced.
But circling back, you'd be surprised that some while on the JS don't just shut up, suck it up, and keep their opinions to themselves whilst enjoying the benefit of the professional courtesy.
12-19-2015 | 03:00 PM
#185
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That was NEVER in doubt, nor the point.
It's the extraneous douchebaggery that was being referenced.
EXACTLY.
But circling back, you'd be surprised that some while on the JS don't just shut up, suck it up, and keep their opinions to themselves whilst enjoying the benefit of the professional courtesy.
It's the extraneous douchebaggery that was being referenced.
EXACTLY.
But circling back, you'd be surprised that some while on the JS don't just shut up, suck it up, and keep their opinions to themselves whilst enjoying the benefit of the professional courtesy.
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12-19-2015 | 07:35 PM
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I had no idea. Sorry. So the FAA considers military pilots better suited to fly airliners with a lessor number of hours than their civilian counterparts?
12-19-2015 | 07:43 PM
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Not quite. The minimums are based on what type of, if any formal flight training an individual has completed.
No formal flight training requires 1500 hours. Graduates of an Embry Riddle type civilian flight training program requires 1000 hours (I think) and graduates of a military flight training program requires 750 hours.
So it is not really a military vs. civilian issue, but weighted on what type of flight training you have completed.
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12-19-2015 | 08:09 PM
#189
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Yes they do and yes they should. I didn't want to feed your trolling appetite on your last post, but I will now. Having done both I can state factually that military training is much more intense with much higher standards. It's not about the people, it's about the program. There are dumbasses and quality folks in both mil and civ.
12-19-2015 | 08:54 PM
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You folks who are smarter than me on scope (i.e., EVERYBODY), riddle me this: JG said during the last base visit in ATL that the scope language had to change in order to get the E190s on property. But scope has not changed...so what gives?
Methinks me knows the answer.
Methinks me knows the answer.
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