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trustbutverify 12-17-2015 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Captain Carrot (Post 2029715)
That article doesn't say who is going to fly them. Just because Delta buys them doesn't mean they'll be flown by the superior hands of the double breasted hat adorned sky gods. Endeavor is a wholly owned entity that can fly them as well as some other delta minuses that could lease them to replace 2 or 3 to one for 50 seaters. That would put them back in the incapable bumbling hands of far inferior pilots who haven't been flying 90 seaters for years already. Hope we can keep that big jet from hitting other smaller aircraft on taxiways and stay on the runway at LGA. We're all in this together ladies and gents, insults are real easy to throw around. We live in glass houses. I hope Delta does put mainline pilots on them and gets great rates! That means more demand for hiring, movement, and might finally put the whipsaw regional airline management pukes out on the streets. But as for the pilots, I'd let them be my wingman any day.

Great post...if you don't care much about facts or understanding what you're talking about.

Czech Airman 12-17-2015 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by poor pilot (Post 2029358)
What makes regional guys punks? Pilots like you make me sick I'm sure bid D is not your first flying job and just because you work for big d doesn't mean you have to be a BIG D. Idiot. Congrats on the new airframes and the flying, the less regional operators out there the better. On that point I agree but to talk smack about the much harder working RJ guys bringing you your pax day in and day out is a move of a C Suck$&@! PUNK.

Monitor guard next time you fly and you'll have your answer.

Czech Airman 12-17-2015 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by Captain Carrot (Post 2029764)
The 190 is an RJ...as is the 717. So......

No. The 190 is built by Embraer, so it's an RJ. The 717 is built by Douglas/Boeing, so it's a mainliner. Get your facts correct.

BlaneO 12-17-2015 02:14 PM

Thread creep...

ATL7ER 12-17-2015 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Captain Carrot (Post 2029715)
That article doesn't say who is going to fly them. Just because Delta buys them doesn't mean they'll be flown by the superior hands of the double breasted hat adorned sky gods. Endeavor is a wholly owned entity that can fly them as well as some other delta minuses that could lease them to replace 2 or 3 to one for 50 seaters. That would put them back in the incapable bumbling hands of far inferior pilots who haven't been flying 90 seaters for years already. Hope we can keep that big jet from hitting other smaller aircraft on taxiways and stay on the runway at LGA. We're all in this together ladies and gents, insults are real easy to throw around. We live in glass houses. I hope Delta does put mainline pilots on them and gets great rates! That means more demand for hiring, movement, and might finally put the whipsaw regional airline management pukes out on the streets. But as for the pilots, I'd let them be my wingman any day.

The superior hands of the double breasted hat adorned sky gods also wrote a Scope clause into the contract that actually prevents everything you stated after "gods". Thanks for playing though.

notEnuf 12-17-2015 02:29 PM

The manufactures nomenclature has absolutely nothing to do with who operates the airplane. Airbuses aren't flown only by Europeans, or Boeings by americans, or canadairs by canadians etc.

Scope and only scope matters. Large gauge or small gauge both need to be recaptured and maintained. If the mainline operates more airplanes it needs more pilots.

Captain Carrot 12-17-2015 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by ATL7ER (Post 2029792)
?...wrote a Scope clause into the contract that actually prevents everything you stated.

I'm sure it's absolute and unwaiverable. But, if management wants you to relax it you will. I don't think people will pace back and forth to fly RJs. If you don't relax it there is no way they're gonna budge on the rates.
Funny part of it is your pilot group getting all hot and bothered to fly these airplanes when not to long ago you scoffed at pilots flying them as substandard and beneath you.
Welcome to the RJ game RJ guys.

Czech Airman 12-17-2015 03:03 PM

The real question is how will the military candidates that have Delta as their career goal carrier react when they realize that by going with Delta they will have to start out in an RJ, vs. going with UAL or AA and starting out in a Boeing or Airbus.

UGBSM 12-17-2015 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by Czech Airman (Post 2029772)
Monitor guard next time you fly and you'll have your answer.

Boy isn't that the truth. I'm sorry but in the last few years the immature shenanigans on guard have risen to an embarrassing level. It just wasn't like that before the era of RJ punks started.

You really just don't hear unprofessional, childish, garbage like that flying across the NATs. I wonder why?

Army80 12-17-2015 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by Captain Carrot (Post 2029815)
I'm sure it's absolute and unwaiverable. But, if management wants you to relax it you will. I don't think people will pace back and forth to fly RJs. If you don't relax it there is no way they're gonna budge on the rates.
Funny part of it is your pilot group getting all hot and bothered to fly these airplanes when not to long ago you scoffed at pilots flying them as substandard and beneath you.
Welcome to the RJ game RJ guys.


Please explain how you know the company is not "gonna budge on the rates"

BTW, many Delta pilots flew RJ's; we know about the puppy mills.


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