I would agree with your point, mostly.

But have you ever done JS work? Just as an example. Although the coworkers may be able to get along, that's NEVER stopped them from exercising douchebaggery towards a third party that's, say, on the JS ;). Sure, it doesn't happen that often or frequently, but IT DOES HAPPEN. And it's always interesting to get the sides of the story, when you can anyway.

Doesn't matter if it's online or offline, a junior/senior rant, a mil civ/you don't deserve the job rant, "you took our yerbs!!!!!", whatever.

Yeah, it's in "the background", but NEVER underestimate pilot's ability to behave like complete children. It really knows no bounds or limits sad to say.

The internetz has simply taken it a whole different direction.

I don't remember the AOL chat room/message board of old being nearly as bad, but then again, that was ages ago.

Ok, I'll agree. Any group the size of the Delta pilots 12,000+ (or the profession as a whole 70,000ish) is bound to have a hand full of DBs that feel it's their right and duty to rant. I haven't seen it impact the operation. Maybe an excuse not to eat dinner but that's it. The internet anonymity emboldens a few but I guess I'm just good at ignoring it. They are easy to spot and only embarrass themselves.

I wasn't flaming you. And yeah, it's rare. But you are correct, when a pilot group is big, naturally by the simple law of averages you have more problems. Doesn't really matter if it's Uber Airline A, or Uber airline B, or Uber airline C now that the legacies are all Uber.

But on the whole, the specific stuff I mention (that actually filterd down) ISN'T common, but it does happen. Maybe 1-2 a month system wide that are simply inter-pilot and NOT pilot to gate agent problems, etc.

Although there have been times where that average spiked, weirdly enough it can coincide with certain things. Like, I don't know, a BK, a merger, JUST talk of a merger, an SLI, a TA ;)

Flame on. I can handle the heat. Law of averages says even gate agents, ramp agents, other airline pilots, doctors, lawyers and even airline managers can be DBs on the internet. (or in real life) :eek:

I still think this group is professional enough to get the job done regardless of the diversity. If you are on the jumpseat, just suck it up and get where you are going. It is still basically hitch hiking no matter how routine it may be, and yes I have been a commuter in both senses of the word. I flew for a regional and have lived out of base. :cool: Been there. YMMV

That was NEVER in doubt, nor the point.

It's the extraneous douchebaggery that was being referenced.

EXACTLY.

But circling back, you'd be surprised that some while on the JS don't just shut up, suck it up, and keep their opinions to themselves whilst enjoying the benefit of the professional courtesy.

I don't doubt it. To paraphrase Mark Twain, "Some people prefer not to keep their mouth shut and have you suspect them being a fool, but would rather open their mouth and confirm it."

Scoop :)

I had no idea. Sorry. So the FAA considers military pilots better suited to fly airliners with a lessor number of hours than their civilian counterparts?

If you haven't been trained by both civilian and military sources then I suppose you're in no position to criticize the decision...


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Not quite. The minimums are based on what type of, if any formal flight training an individual has completed.

No formal flight training requires 1500 hours. Graduates of an Embry Riddle type civilian flight training program requires 1000 hours (I think) and graduates of a military flight training program requires 750 hours.

So it is not really a military vs. civilian issue, but weighted on what type of flight training you have completed.

Scoop

Yes they do and yes they should. I didn't want to feed your trolling appetite on your last post, but I will now. Having done both I can state factually that military training is much more intense with much higher standards. It's not about the people, it's about the program. There are dumbasses and quality folks in both mil and civ.