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John Carr 12-19-2015 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2030850)
The military/civilian, North/South, Junior/Senior, disputes are entirely an internet induced "problem."

Disagree. Even though the "north/south" occurred in this very digital age, the rest of which you mentioned all happened before the fancy fangled interwebz.

It's simple pilot douche baggery.

There's always been mil vs civ douche baggery , there's always been senior/junior douche baggery, the proliferation of the RJ's caused pilot douche baggery, giving away scope in exchange for a big paycheck and then being mad because the RJ "took our yerbs!!!" douche baggery, whatever.

Purple Drank 12-19-2015 08:06 AM

Carr, are you a Delta pilot?

John Carr 12-19-2015 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Purple Drank (Post 2030862)
Carr, are you a Delta pilot?

I'm the morning/afternoon DJ at The Cheeta. I'm not tier 1 material (yet) to get the coveted evening shift.

Are you always a grumpy guy or an alter ego sign in for someone else?

Scoop 12-19-2015 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by Phuz (Post 2030831)
A lot of this sentiment on this thread in particular seems manufactured by a select few individuals who are for their own reasons trying to feel better about themselves. I am a civilian former turboprop and RJ driver who has been treated with nothing but respect by everyone I have encountered so far at DAL. If you bring good piloting and a respectful attitude to the cockpit you will be respected here. There is no mainline conspiracy by the white male military fighter pilot mafia to marginalize the regional pilots - much of that discussion here seems to have resulted from people who took comments out of context and/or failed to read and comprehend the entire thread.


Great post. On my last trip we had an RJ pilot on the jumpstart to LAX. I saw him waiting for a bus and ended up giving him a ride to his crash-pad. Just common courtesy. I bet he does not think all DAL Pilots are Double Breasted DBs.

Scoop

zippinbye 12-19-2015 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 2030859)
Disagree. Even though the "north/south" occurred in this very digital age, the rest of which you mentioned all happened before the fancy fangled interwebz.

It's simple pilot douche baggery.

There's always been mil vs civ douche baggery , there's always been senior/junior douche baggery, the proliferation of the RJ's caused pilot douche baggery, giving away scope in exchange for a big paycheck and then being mad because the RJ "took our yerbs!!!" douche baggery, whatever.

I just happened to get a Skywest hiring pop-up and noted their hiring requirements. Another source of military vs. civilian douche baggery perpetuation. Evidently they view military pilots as the better candidates for flying airliners. Out of four requirement tiers, military guys are good to apply with 750 hours. Civilians need 1000, 1250 or 1500 depending on other factors. Military superiority complex is alive and well at one of our Delta Connection partners.

Mesabah 12-19-2015 10:13 AM

The regional rate reset happens at the end of this month so that could shake things up bit.

thefoxsays 12-19-2015 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by Laserowner (Post 2030857)
You do realize that most of the RJ-insulting posts on this thread were made by other RJ pilots, who were (I believe) attempting to be sarcastic, don't you? BTW, I always tip my (mandatory) hat to RJ pilots when I see them, and I call the four-stripers "Captain". :)


It was an extremely long day... So I may have missed the sarcasm.

Sorry. Otherwise, I could say the RJ/Mill/Civilians crap could be Internet only drivel. The line flying had been wonderful. Haven't had an issue with one other guy on the line in two years. So cheers to that.

forgot to bid 12-19-2015 11:33 AM

RAHlifer makes a comment and uses the word punks to describe regional pilots. I decide to reply in kind to what I thought was a DAL pilot by saying that the 190s would be flown by a delta ********. Then I reread his post and realize it was an RAH lifer, as in a republic airways holding lifer. A lifer at a regional. Now I see the sarcasm and changed my post, slightlly.

ImissXJ 12-19-2015 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by zippinbye (Post 2030929)
I just happened to get a Skywest hiring pop-up and noted their hiring requirements. Another source of military vs. civilian douche baggery perpetuation. Evidently they view military pilots as the better candidates for flying airliners. Out of four requirement tiers, military guys are good to apply with 750 hours. Civilians need 1000, 1250 or 1500 depending on other factors. Military superiority complex is alive and well at one of our Delta Connection partners.

I'm probably getting trolled here but oh well... You know those are the Restricted ATP hour minimums and not generated by Sky West right? So you can blame the FAA for their superiority complex.

notEnuf 12-19-2015 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 2030859)
Disagree. Even though the "north/south" occurred in this very digital age, the rest of which you mentioned all happened before the fancy fangled interwebz.

It's simple pilot douche baggery.

There's always been mil vs civ douche baggery , there's always been senior/junior douche baggery, the proliferation of the RJ's caused pilot douche baggery, giving away scope in exchange for a big paycheck and then being mad because the RJ "took our yerbs!!!" douche baggery, whatever.

The point is all these arguments are always in the background. The internet is where the rude disrespect and condescension comes out, not the cockpit. This group of pilots knows how to disagree and still run a professional respectful flight deck. I have never been a part of a crew that couldn't set aside differences of opinion and fly the jet safely and get the job done. Yeah, everyone has heard the story of that guy but it's folklore not the norm, or even a one off concern.


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