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DALMD88FO 12-21-2015 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by BlaneO (Post 2032122)
If Delta has a B-scale and other majors don't, Delta will drop from #1 on many lists. Simple economics. I think you'd see guys drop training classes when they get other (more lucrative) offers, too. I don't see it happening, too many potential negatives for "the brand."

RJ vs Airbus/Boeing won't matter. It's all about the pay rates.

All aircraft pay the same the first year and the new hire seat lock is only one year (something the company wanted to change in the failed contract). Currently no one will be staying on the aircraft as you pointed out the pay is lower. I would imagine that we will have a new contract prior to these aircraft coming to the line in 2017.

We will see how the re-engagement goes tomorrow.

Flamer 12-21-2015 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by DALMD88FO (Post 2032142)
All aircraft pay the same the first year and the new hire seat lock is only one year (something the company wanted to change in the failed contract). Currently no one will be staying on the aircraft as you pointed out the pay is lower. I would imagine that we will have a new contract prior to these aircraft coming to the line in 2017.

We will see how the re-engagement goes tomorrow.

Are you implying we will know something tomorrow about negotiations?

forgot to bid 12-21-2015 08:31 PM

We shouldn't be negotiating right now.

DALMD88FO 12-22-2015 02:06 AM


Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 2032161)
Are you implying we will know something tomorrow about negotiations?

Absolutely not, what i'm saying is that those EMB190's have a while before they hit the property and I would hope, I know hope is not a method, that we will have a contract by then.

Flamer 12-22-2015 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 2032335)
We shouldn't be negotiating right now.

True. But I think legally we have to pretend to.

JungleBus 12-22-2015 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 2032335)
We shouldn't be negotiating right now.

Do you still believe that having seen our new opener?

Doesn't seem to have a particularly Moaky flavor to me.

notEnuf 12-22-2015 01:26 PM

I think we are in for the long haul. Ed just cashed out over half his stock while it's still over $51.

SEC FORM 4

Schwanker 12-22-2015 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2032696)
I think we are in for the long haul. Ed just cashed out over half his stock while it's still over $51.

SEC FORM 4

I guess he doesn't value those awards they've been chasing. Dumping on the pilots doesn't bode well to running an award winning operation.

ghilis101 12-22-2015 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2032696)
I think we are in for the long haul. Ed just cashed out over half his stock while it's still over $51.

SEC FORM 4

I agree theres no rush. But throughout the year RA and EB have been selling stock regardless of the price. I think they sell it and reinvest in in other places. DAL stock target price is over $60. Since these guys are paid in stock, they'll keep getting and selling DAL stock along the way.

notEnuf 12-22-2015 03:12 PM

Over half your personal stock is a big move out of the stock you are buying back as a manager. Look for buy backs to accelerate if the stock price takes a hit.

Paul (CFO) is getting out somewhat now too. CFO is Chief Financial Officer. I think they see trouble with the stock price until the pilot contract is settled.

SEC FORM 4


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