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05-31-2016 | 11:49 AM
#91
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From: DAL 330
The sheer arrogance of your position is laughable. Do you think that the other employees are just waiting for the pilots to tell them what to do? There have been numerous organizing efforts by numerous unions and they have all failed. What makes you think ALPA will be able to change their minds? Please, could you make a video of you instructing the other employees about how they need to listen to the godlike pilots laying down their infinite wisdom. I mean what else would they do except fall at your feet and thank you for your benevolence. How else could those simple little sheep make up their minds without the patient guidance of the pilots. Go ahead, start that organizing drive, I would like to buy tickets to see you get your comeuppance. The great and mighty pilots have spoken, submit or be crushed. What arrogance.
What you fail to acknowledge is not the fact that we will probably not have a large impact on other groups. It is the fact that we do not need to have a large impact as they are pretty close to 50-50. Hell they might vote in a union with no change in DALPA policy.
Furthermore DALPA does not have the ability to even slightly influence other labor groups but we should keep sending money to the ALPA PAC where we can sway international treaties, Congress, the American public etc?
Ok, I got it.
Scoop
Last edited by Scoop; 05-31-2016 at 06:33 PM.
05-31-2016 | 12:09 PM
#92
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From: A330 First Officer
The sheer arrogance of your position is laughable. Do you think that the other employees are just waiting for the pilots to tell them what to do? There have been numerous organizing efforts by numerous unions and they have all failed. What makes you think ALPA will be able to change their minds? Please, could you make a video of you instructing the other employees about how they need to listen to the godlike pilots laying down their infinite wisdom. I mean what else would they do except fall at your feet and thank you for your benevolence. How else could those simple little sheep make up their minds without the patient guidance of the pilots. Go ahead, start that organizing drive, I would like to buy tickets to see you get your comeuppance. The great and mighty pilots have spoken, submit or be crushed. What arrogance.
05-31-2016 | 12:51 PM
#93
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From: 737 ATL
The sheer arrogance of your position is laughable. Do you think that the other employees are just waiting for the pilots to tell them what to do? There have been numerous organizing efforts by numerous unions and they have all failed. What makes you think ALPA will be able to change their minds? Please, could you make a video of you instructing the other employees about how they need to listen to the godlike pilots laying down their infinite wisdom. I mean what else would they do except fall at your feet and thank you for your benevolence. How else could those simple little sheep make up their minds without the patient guidance of the pilots. Go ahead, start that organizing drive, I would like to buy tickets to see you get your comeuppance. The great and mighty pilots have spoken, submit or be crushed. What arrogance.
"Make management's arguments. Accept them as thine own". Book of Moak, Chap. 3 Verse 4.
You guys have got to let go of the past.
Don't be afraid.... Step toward the light.....
We will show you how a true two-party adversarial negotiation is supposed to look.
Last edited by Check Essential; 05-31-2016 at 01:12 PM.
05-31-2016 | 12:59 PM
#94
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From: ir.delta.com
The sheer arrogance of your position is laughable. Do you think that the other employees are just waiting for the pilots to tell them what to do? There have been numerous organizing efforts by numerous unions and they have all failed. What makes you think ALPA will be able to change their minds? Please, could you make a video of you instructing the other employees about how they need to listen to the godlike pilots laying down their infinite wisdom. I mean what else would they do except fall at your feet and thank you for your benevolence. How else could those simple little sheep make up their minds without the patient guidance of the pilots. Go ahead, start that organizing drive, I would like to buy tickets to see you get your comeuppance. The great and mighty pilots have spoken, submit or be crushed. What arrogance.
05-31-2016 | 01:13 PM
#95
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The sheer arrogance of your position is laughable. Do you think that the other employees are just waiting for the pilots to tell them what to do? There have been numerous organizing efforts by numerous unions and they have all failed. What makes you think ALPA will be able to change their minds? Please, could you make a video of you instructing the other employees about how they need to listen to the godlike pilots laying down their infinite wisdom. I mean what else would they do except fall at your feet and thank you for your benevolence. How else could those simple little sheep make up their minds without the patient guidance of the pilots. Go ahead, start that organizing drive, I would like to buy tickets to see you get your comeuppance. The great and mighty pilots have spoken, submit or be crushed. What arrogance.
You have a voice to be heard, drop the bitterness and make it a voice for the pilot group. The management team will do fine without your help. We need you on our team, not theirs.
05-31-2016 | 01:36 PM
#96
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From: A350 Both
But it did. And the "yes men" did it. Thankfully they are gone. Except for 1 or 3.
The only straw man I see was screaming PEB! When this contract is settled the house cleaning and dues accountability will continue to national. I too want to know how your (and my) money is spent.
The only straw man I see was screaming PEB! When this contract is settled the house cleaning and dues accountability will continue to national. I too want to know how your (and my) money is spent.
05-31-2016 | 01:53 PM
#97
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funding cobra benefits had far less to do with the value of the air line pilots association.....and far more to do with the culture of this airlines pilot employee group.
if it had.....alpa would have facilitated such a program at all member carriers.
if it had.....alpa would have facilitated such a program at all member carriers.
05-31-2016 | 02:19 PM
#98
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From: A350 Both
So then as unioinists we should have said to the furloughees "goodbye and goodluck"? Or are you more interested in destroying the culture of this company? Non union FAs are part of the culture - right or wrong - so our taking part in that transition is supporting destruction of the current culture of DAL. Or am I missing something?
05-31-2016 | 02:21 PM
#99
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From: 777B
So then as unioinists we should have said to the furloughees "goodbye and goodluck"? Or are you more interested in destroying the culture of this company? Non union FAs are part of the culture - right or wrong - so our taking part in that transition is supporting destruction of the current culture of DAL. Or am I missing something?
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