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05-20-2016 | 03:33 AM

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buckleyboy

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Originally Posted by Scoop

My take is the MEC is going to look seriously at this issue and I would expect to see this question addressed in polling going forward.

Scoop

Your crystal ball, sage Sir, was correct. Think about your answer to that question, fellow Delta pilots.

05-20-2016 | 04:39 AM

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JamesBond

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Originally Posted by Whereisalpa

Just so glad no secret agent men on my negotiating committee !!!

You want to spend our dues money to organize other employee groups? seriously?

05-20-2016 | 05:11 AM

#33

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Originally Posted by JamesBond

Better not use my dues money for this windmill hunt.

Because it's so much better spent 1.7 Million at a time on a lopsided deceptive sales job. That was absolutely disgraceful!

05-20-2016 | 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesBond

You want to spend our dues money to organize other employee groups? seriously?

Do you support spending our dues money to deliberately deceive our pilots in an effort to get them to support concessions? Seriously?

05-20-2016 | 05:19 AM

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JamesBond

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Originally Posted by Schwanker

Do you support spending our dues money to deliberately deceive our pilots in an effort to get them to support concessions? Seriously?

Yeah. That is what I support.

05-20-2016 | 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesBond

Yeah. That is what I support.

The MD-11 did. Happy to hear you didn't support their deceptive efforts either.

05-20-2016 | 05:27 AM

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JamesBond

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Originally Posted by Schwanker

The MD-11 did. Happy to hear you didn't support their deceptive efforts either.

And that is relevant to this discussion, how again?

05-20-2016 | 05:28 AM

#38

Herkflyr

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Originally Posted by Schwanker

The MD-11 did. Happy to hear you didn't support their deceptive efforts either.

I was unhappy with the TA 15 sales job, but to this day I have flown with many a pilot who honestly thinks that we earn more absolute dollars since we rejected the TA than had we passed it. That could not happen in any scenario but the belief persists.

Funny that none of the DALPA haters ever seem to correct that.

05-20-2016 | 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Herkflyr

It's the concessions. The caving on scope, OE trip drops, mediocre vacation gains, sick language, profit sharing (buying our pay rates)....

This is why it got voted down!

The MD-11 refused to honestly address these areas. All they wanted to say is "look at the pay rates" which, by the way, still weren't earth shattering. A complete failure!

05-20-2016 | 05:37 AM

#40

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Originally Posted by JamesBond

You want to spend our dues money to organize other employee groups? seriously?

If that's what it takes to motivate management, then yes.
If they want to keep the FAs and mechanics non-union they can sign our contract.

I know it goes against everything you believe in, but --

Your Moakist philosophy failed. We are no longer going to collaborate with management.

We are now going to spend money fighting management. Get used to it. Its what unions do.