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Sniper66 05-29-2016 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by ShyGuy (Post 2136861)
Now that Alaska is merging with Virgin, is there an actual rumor that Delta is going to merge with Alaska? One would think the big three DL/UA/AA are now too big to merge with anyone else.




Delta will buy Hawaian ...
330s and A321, and 717s
2.2 B market cap and it's a done done deal .
4 months of profit in good use

Gunfighter 05-29-2016 11:46 AM

Woohoo. We're bringing back the HNL pilot base.

JamesBond 05-29-2016 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 2136931)
Delta will buy Hawaian ...
330s and A321, and 717s
2.2 B market cap and it's a done done deal .
4 months of profit in good use

not. gonna. happen.

snowdawg 05-29-2016 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Sniper66 (Post 2136931)
Delta will buy Hawaian ...
330s and A321, and 717s
2.2 B market cap and it's a done done deal .
4 months of profit in good use

You forgot Haneda slots, the only thing of interest at one time.

gzsg 05-29-2016 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 2136738)
DCI is a failed model. They can't staff the ones they have. Throwaway item.

This is one of the top 5 biggest untruths the dark side perpetuates.

Are you saying Bastian is so dumb he is asking for more 76 seat jets at DCI and he won't make it happen?

Why does he ask for this concession?

Because in my opinion he has Canoll in the bag. Canoll will roll over on lowering the restricted ATP minimums and we will, yet again, have our pants down around our ankles.

No more 76 seat jets at DCI. We will be more than happy to fly all Delta jets with Delta seniority list pilots.

gzsg 05-29-2016 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 2136836)
We have 14 month mainline captains and you want to waste money on RJ scope. Color me scary then.

Edit: And I never said anbything about 'giving it away'.

James

You are hitting all the talking points for management.

How does saying no to more 76 seat jets at DCI cost us money?

How much would you sell all our vacation for?

How much would you sell our JV scope for?

JamesBond 05-29-2016 03:23 PM

gzsg: Everything has a price. Everything is negotiable

In the immortal words of Geddy Lee "If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice". One man's steadfastedness is another's concession.

Chris Hansen 05-29-2016 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 2136836)
We have 14 month mainline captains and you want to waste money on RJ scope. Color me scary then.

Edit: And I never said anbything about 'giving it away'.

We can't staff 717's.

Times are good. Economy is good. Fuel is cheap. Why in the world would you even consider giving up one airplane worth of scope? Parking MD-88s to be replaced with CS100. So we charge more for a seat, less capacity. B-717/CS100 cover MD-88 flying. Your new large RJs that you're willing to give away then do the 717 flying.

Log into delta net. Look at the news: DCI just broke a performance record. *** are you talking about they can't staff? Giving up scope in this market will come back and bite you when the market turns.

notEnuf 05-29-2016 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 2137019)
gzsg: Everything has a price. Everything is negotiable

In the immortal words of Geddy Lee "If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice". One man's steadfastedness is another's concession.

And one group's overwhelming majority is the whole group's overwhelming majority. The vote will come when the TA comes. Until then I will fight to influence the TA in favor of the pilots because it is affordable and we are deserving. Your choices are exactly your choices.

gzsg 05-29-2016 06:22 PM

I think the DCI carriers still do over 50% of Delta's domestic departures. That is beyond unacceptable. Allowing one more 76 seat jet is a non starter.

And on the JV side......

We better have the best language ever written. We are going to need it.


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