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Old 06-26-2016 | 06:10 AM
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[QUOTE=WhatNow;2151053]
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The few trips I have flown my FO's look like they were 12 years old!
Yea, I saw one yesterday. At least they resemble the picture on their ID. Cheers
Old 06-26-2016 | 06:26 AM
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[QUOTE=WhatNow;2151053]
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The few trips I have flown my FO's look like they were 12 years old!
We were all 12 years old at one time... no?
Old 06-26-2016 | 06:29 AM
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If this bothers you, don't fly European or Asian carriers and look in the left seat. Just sayn' we still have the most experienced pilots in the world. Egypt Air 320 captain had 6800TT. I had 8200TT when hired into the right seat of an MD88. That was years ago. The 320 captain seat is just now going that junior but that will never be the norm.

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Old 06-26-2016 | 06:55 AM
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If this bothers you, don't fly European or Asian carriers and look in the left seat. Just sayn' we still have the most experienced pilots in the world. Egypt Air 320 captain had 6800TT. I had 8200TT when hired into the right seat of an MD88. That was years ago. The 320 captain seat is just now going that junior but that will never be the norm.

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Heck, I've got 8000 hours in Airbus at NWA and Delta and can't hold 320 captain in ATL.
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[QUOTE=Hank Kingsley;2151051]
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Oh, I assume you're a wide body Captain, you have convince the FO's you fly with. Most of the ones I work with have 20 years minimum and plan on retiring in that seat. If you were in the stagnant seat, you'd be singing a different tune.
Pointless to argue with Sailingfun. He gets his koolaid via an IV
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[QUOTE=Dirtdiver;2151143]
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Pointless to argue with Sailingfun. He gets his koolaid via an IV
Yep, Delta has been totally stagnate, hasn't hire a soul, no plans to hire!
Old 06-26-2016 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by WhatNow
The orders at AMR and UAL can't be restructured? What is your point? Would you rather have no orders? As long as I can remember since the merger you have made similar statements about each batch of aircraft ordered. You have been wrong every time.
Delta has not deferred or changed any orders since the merger? Really?

Speaking of being wrong every time, sailingfud, you were the one panicking about 737s and 190s not being ordered unless we bent over for the TA.

I say again. Aircraft orders do not mean a thing to Delta pilots until those jets are on the property.
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How'd you quote me, I didn't say that. Is that libel or slander? libel.
Old 06-26-2016 | 11:20 AM
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[QUOTE=WhatNow;2151163]
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Yep, Delta has been totally stagnate, hasn't hire a soul, no plans to hire!
So we are adding to the bottom and not retiring many yet, how has that helped advancement?

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Old 06-26-2016 | 12:10 PM
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[QUOTE=WhatNow;2151163][QUOTE=Dirtdiver;2151143]

Yep, Delta has been totally stagnate, hasn't hire a soul, no plans to hire![/QUOTE


"Delta has been totally stagnate," Correct - with the emphasis on "has been." Many 2000 and 2001 hire just recently getting opportunities to move to the left seat.

As to the second half of your sentence we all - we get the sarcasm. DAL is hiring tons of pilots and the movement has begun. Great for all 2014 + hires but does not erase the last 15 years for the previously mentioned group.

Now as to UAL and AMR - they are also no stranger to stagnation. My 2000 hire UAL bud was furloughed twice and my 99 hire in-law at AMR has experienced similar career trajectory to me ,sans the furlough.

With all that said I think the OP intent was forward looking access to WBs at DAL vs AMR and UCAL.

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