SWA Will Raise The Bar
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This is critical information.
In my opinion, the Southwest pilots will soon have a new TA.
I believe the 737 captain rate will be $280 per hour.
Their hour is :54 minutes.
Therefore you need to add 11% to get an equivalent for our contract.
$280 X 11% = $311.
Once they have a new TA $311 per hour for a 737 captain will be the rate all our hourly rates will be based off of.
Time is on our side.
Patient for the right deal.
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Jerry Fielding
In my opinion, the Southwest pilots will soon have a new TA.
I believe the 737 captain rate will be $280 per hour.
Their hour is :54 minutes.
Therefore you need to add 11% to get an equivalent for our contract.
$280 X 11% = $311.
Once they have a new TA $311 per hour for a 737 captain will be the rate all our hourly rates will be based off of.
Time is on our side.
Patient for the right deal.
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Jerry Fielding
Please put the crack pipe down, and the book on Herb called Nuts. I work for a corporation that despises its pilots. They blame us for their management failures, like the -300's going into retirement. We have 12 hour duty day international turns, and we are not allowed to get off the airplane. The director of flight ops tells us to grab a muffin at the hotel before you start your day, we are not provided food by the company. Our hotels suck, we stay at a lot of holiday Inn's. In fact scheduling asks our pilots to sleep in the crew room when they can't find a hotel for you on a reroute.
We are 4 years past due on a contract and our management believes Allegiant pilots are overpaid. If you think time is on your side, good luck. Do you think they hired Randy Babbitt to negotiate against employees for good will?
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In my opinion an agreement at SWA is imminent.
No one should doubt they will use the UPS rates, pension, vacation, etc. to lead the industry.
Remember their hour is 54 minutes. So add 11% to their new 737 rate and that will be our new minimum on the 737.
How refreshing to see management foot dragging work in our favor.
Long overdue.
United--No concessions
UPS--No concessions
Allegiant--No concessions
FedEx--No concessions
Delta--?
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Jerry Fielding
No one should doubt they will use the UPS rates, pension, vacation, etc. to lead the industry.
Remember their hour is 54 minutes. So add 11% to their new 737 rate and that will be our new minimum on the 737.
How refreshing to see management foot dragging work in our favor.
Long overdue.
United--No concessions
UPS--No concessions
Allegiant--No concessions
FedEx--No concessions
Delta--?
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Jerry Fielding
Bahahaha. I wish our pilot group could be as optimistic about this as you are but in reality the company is dragging their feet in a big way and the pilots aren't mad enough to force the issue (not sure if they ever will be). I don't see an acceptable TA in sight until the MAX shows up next year and they start getting parked because we won't fly them. You're being a little too optimistic about things me thinks.
Btw, the conversion is 15% not 11%. So 1 hour of block at the "normal" airlines equates to 1.15 TFP.
Multiple our rates by 1.15 to get the hourly conversion.
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Please put the crack pipe down, and the book on Herb called Nuts. I work for a corporation that despises its pilots. They blame us for their management failures, like the -300's going into retirement. We have 12 hour duty day international turns, and we are not allowed to get off the airplane. The director of flight ops tells us to grab a muffin at the hotel before you start your day, we are not provided food by the company. Our hotels suck, we stay at a lot of holiday Inn's. In fact scheduling asks our pilots to sleep in the crew room when they can't find a hotel for you on a reroute.
We are 4 years past due on a contract and our management believes Allegiant pilots are overpaid. If you think time is on your side, good luck. Do you think they hired Randy Babbitt to negotiate against employees for good will?
We are 4 years past due on a contract and our management believes Allegiant pilots are overpaid. If you think time is on your side, good luck. Do you think they hired Randy Babbitt to negotiate against employees for good will?
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Oh, and you guys realize we have zero retirement guarantee at SWA? 10% of our pilot group receives zero dollars in retirement from the company.
The old kool aid narrative from company pilots that would end up in our union, is that we can't ask for retirement because the company would have to give it to the flight attendats too.
Our own union would compare us to flight attendants for compensation, not Delta pilots.
The old kool aid narrative from company pilots that would end up in our union, is that we can't ask for retirement because the company would have to give it to the flight attendats too.
Our own union would compare us to flight attendants for compensation, not Delta pilots.
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We were on a parallel taxiway a few weeks ago and doing 12 knots. Our own company aircraft that was behind us pipes up on ground freq and asks, "Is everything okay up there guys?" I refrained from replying and so did the ground controller. DOUCHEBAG!!
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